Most overrated rock artists of all time?

[starman]

thanks bud. I always felt that music and other forms of art could trandscend race. I live in Prince George's County, Maryland i predominantely black populated county. When i hear someone say that is black music or that is white music it drives me up the wall. Music u hear it. What u hear doesnt have a color. Hey btw if u could do me a favor since now i know your are a musician. Could you check out some of my stuff in the musician's corner.

Absolutely! I will post a little of my project stuff as well, most likely tomorrow though as I am about to hit the hay.

 

[runtfan]

I have to agree that music SHOULD BE and, more often than not IS one of the things in life that transcends the usual barriers...race being a major one.
I'm a musician too ( just got home from a gig as a matter of fact) and I understand how music affects people and how important it is that when someone's playing music it's more important than ever to not pre-judge according to race, age, intellect, economic status, or any political or religious leanings and just let the talent speak for itself.

 

[CP/M User]

As Quoted from here:

On November 5, 1956, The Nat King Cole Show debuted on NBC-TV. The Cole program was the first of its kind hosted by an African-American, which created controversy at the time.[3]

Personally I think that Controversy crap never did happen and people accepted Nat King Cole as Host of his own show. Unfortunately the show never did really take off though due to lack of sponsorship and was axed (according to Wikipedia) by Cole himself December 17, 1957.

I just think people have to realise that Rock wasn't the dominant standard in the 50s and other groups sang different styles of songs - Nat King Cole, Johnny Mathis & Harry Belafonte all successful in their own right - Belafonte was different to Mathis and Cole with his folk and Caribbean influences! Yes people like Little Richard & Sam Cooke were also successful in forms of Rock & Soul music, though Arthur Lee of Love made his Psychedelic music accepted, so I don't believe one mans success has anything to do with what background they come from.

 

[starman]

As Quoted from here:



Personally I think that Controversy crap never did happen and people accepted Nat King Cole as Host of his own show. Unfortunately the show never did really take off though due to lack of sponsorship and was axed (according to Wikipedia) by Cole himself December 17, 1957.

I just think people have to realize that Rock wasn't the dominant standard in the 50s and other groups sang different styles of songs - Nat King Cole, Johnny Mathis & Harry Belafonte all successful in their own right - Belafonte was different to Mathis and Cole with his folk and Caribbean influences! Yes people like Little Richard & Sam Cooke were also successful in forms of Rock & Soul music, though Arthur Lee of Love made his Psychedelic music accepted, so I don't believe one mans success has anything to do with what background they come from.

One does have to in fact take a look at the numbers over all because that's where the possible real proof is. In the 1950s Blacks TRULY were a real minority, far more so in the minority than today because if immigration and the natural progressive propagatory process since that time. I HONESTLY believe, with all my heart, that skin color transcended the TYPICAL (how horrible to have to state that implicit fact) social discrimination boundaries that Black people had to face in The United Snakes AND around the globe.

Here is an interesting consideration. One that I am not prepared to make a factual observation concerning. Look at the real birth or cradle of Rock in the US from a time line perspective. Realize the percentage of Blacks vs. Non Blacks ( I state "non-blacks" because there were assuredly other races in the rock n roll oven at the time. Lest we forget the tragic demise of one Ritchie Valens and others as well) within the over all scheme of rock's origin in the US. It becomes pretty darn clear that Blacks, because of the sheer unique individual talent exhibited, were an OVER average representation of that blessed Rock 'N Roll soup. Yum-mee!

Oh my goodness, I wish everyone were standing here in front of me right now to witness my Sunday morning rock n roll exuberance! The debt that I feel is personally, on my behalf I'm saying, owed to the Black musical community. One that I could NEVER repay in and of myself. Maybe it can't be as you consider the following philosophical possibility per one reverend starman's Sunday morning rock n roll sermon. It's what I have chosen to believe.

(Truthfully, and NO, there is no Frank Zappa "no foolin'" in there)

Music in African culture has always played a humongous part in both social ritual as well as Religious belief systems. I can say without hesitation that it is an African based ideology that I have come to know and retain unto this day for myself. The story in a humble snapshot goes something like this.

In the beginning God created all the basic musical instruments and gave them a portion of his own spirit. God after which, realized that the instruments were lonely, and in and of themselves incomplete. So as a gift to the instruments, that God realized would ultimately return appreciated, God created mankind and thus the ultimate consummation formed. The guarantee of the new relationship's survival being the ceaseless inspiration born of that partnership.

Personally, I'd say it's pretty obvious that despite the subsequent cruel torture endured by Africans that went forth from their continent of origin under various circumstances, the aforementioned gifts that they carried enriched mankind in an immeasurably necessary way. Every exacting footstep leading away from the cradle known as Africa HAD to take place as it did fatalistically. This being in such a powerful and complete sense that arbitrary "repayment" isn't even a possibility one to another. The only real payment possible would be one paid in endless tribute back to the one who gave humanity this binding gift to begin with. Very much a natural order of things in which we can no more deny our natural hunger and subsequent enrichment from music, than music can deny it's need for us in partnership to continue it's Earthly perpetuation.

After all, where does science KNOW that mankind first originated?

 

[Foxhound]

Starman:

In truth, I believe that music in and of itself has done more to eliminate and heal the disgraceful falsehood of racism within the human condition than any other socially observable interactive process.

I agree. Music can be the great unifying factor. Speaking for myself, I love the music of the great old bluesmen going back to the fifties (so many great blues harp players from Sonny Boy Williamson to Little Walter to Slim Harpo to Junior Wells) and I groove on so much of the soul of the sixties from James Brown to Otis Redding to Solomon Burke to Ben E. King to all those Motown acts like the Supremes and the Four Tops. And I like all those bands like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Yardbirds, Cream and Led Zeppelin who got their starts shamelessly emulating these R & B musicians.

Similarly, some early rap such as "Me So Horny" and other light-hearted tongue-in-cheek numbers brought a smile to my face. But hip hop quickly evolved in an ever more "tuff" and "keeping it real" direction which flat out failed to resonate with me and I now despise those largely white groups such as Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit that emulate the same style.

It's not the skin colour; it's the style and substance of the music beneath the skin.

 

[Hepcat]

Spike, who is evidently still hopping freights and thus MIA, started a thread on exactly this topic a couple of years ago:

Classic Rock and Race

The other major unifying factor is sports. How many white residents of Chicago weren't cheering for Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and company during their glory years? And how many black residents of Chicago, big hockey fans or not, don't look up at the TV when a Blackhawk is shown on the highlight reel dropping his gloves to punch it out with an opponent? And the fellow they're cheering for is the one with the crossed tomahawks on his shoulders and the big Indian head on his chest.

 

[snakes&ladders]

I've been in the lingo business for over 35 years now and I can tell ya'll that there is NO universal ,anguage except for SEX and MUSIC...I'm dead sure about that.....so let's keep on keepin' on with the universal languages

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By blackglove at 2009-12-05

 

[Aktivator]

judging by the threads on this message board I'll say 50's and early 60's rock n roll. Yeah its all great and I listen to it from time to time but I prefer mid 60's and early 70's rock to the early stuff.

 

[LG]

You are right Aktivator, other than a few of the Giants from the 50's I don't have much of that music in my library. I find a few compilation CD's with my favorite songs to be plenty for my needs.

 

[Hepcat]

judging by the threads on this message board I'll say 50's and early 60's rock n roll.

I don't think it's popular enough to be classified as overrated.