Wicked Lester (Official Thread)

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Wicked Lester was a New York-based rock and roll group. The group was formed as Rainbow in 1970. Its most notable early members were bassist Gene Klein, born Chaim Witz, later changing his name to Gene Simmons and rhythm guitarist Stanley Eisen, later Paul Stanley. In 1971 the band changed their name to Wicked Lester, and later that year they recorded an album for Epic Records, which was never officially released.

Wicked Lester's music featured elements of rock and roll, folk rock, and pop. Simmons and Stanley, feeling that the group lacked a unifying musical vision, began forming a second version of Wicked Lester in late 1972. This second Wicked Lester, with an emphasis on more straightforward rock and roll, as well as on theatrics, became Kiss in early 1973







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Great to hear these tracks MP ! Make me wonder what would have happened to this band if they hadnt metamorphosised into KISS
 

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Very cool MP! :cheers2

I hear bits of Grand Funk, Three Dog Night, Jefferson Airplane, The Who, Jethro Tull and Santana in those three songs. :grinthumb

The guitar player, Stephen Coronel, isn't too bad in his own right. I wonder whatever became of him... :huh:
 

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Great Stuff MP!!

Coronel was the main link between Stanley & Simmons as he was the mutual friend that brought them together. Coronel played in various bands with Gene in the late 60's such as the Long Island Sounds, The Love Bag, Bullfrog Bheer, Cathedral, & Coffee(which also included Wicked Lester Keyboardist Brooke Ostrander). Oddly enough...in 1969 Simmons & Coronel were in Cathedral with drummer Stan Singer & bassist Marty Cohen meanwhile that same year after their demise Coronel, Singer, & Cohen formed a band called Tree with...Paul Stanley! Coronel wanted Simmons & Stanley to meet & eventually they met at one of their apartments. They didn't hit it off too well but down the line Simmons was renting out sound systems & one day rented it out to a band called Uncle Joe which featured Paul Stanley. Simmons helped set up the sound system & decided to stay for the gig. He was blown away by Paul's performance especially on Free's "All Right Now" & shortly after Rainbow was formed...

Wicked Lester recieved their record deal with Epic & after the record was recorded for some reason Epic wasn't happy with Coronel & forced him out of the band. They brought in a session guitarist named Ron Leejack without even having him audition for the band & rerecorded the album with Leejack(the band had to change some songs to fit Leejack's style). The band had to play a showcase gig for the executives of Epic & by then Paul & Gene started having visions of being more theatrical. Leejack was against theatrics & only wanted to concentrate on the music so for the show he cranked up his amp & actually brought out a chair & sat for the the performance. According to him Epic wasn't too happy about the band but loved his playing. From what I've read everyone in the band got along well with Leejack & Leejack was an overall nice guy. Supposedly, Paul & Gene asked Leejack to fire Ostrander & Zarella from the band so they could change the band's direction. Leejack couldn't bring himself to hurt the other members so he resigned from Wicked Lester. According to Leejack after he left was when they lost the deal with Epic.

I've heard both recordings of the Wicked Lester album & I don't know why they were against Coronel.
 

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While they were Rainbow they actually played a few gigs. The first was at Richmond College in Staten Island which held about 500 people (although there were only a few people at the show). That night they played all original material (I had originally read that they played a few covers that night) & Paul admitted that he caught Crabs in the Bathroom. Their setlist for the night was:

Goin’ Blind
About Her
Love Her All I Can
Keep Me Waiting
Suitor
First Time Around
Eskimo Sun
Stanley the Parrot
It’s A Wonder
Movin’ On
Sweet Flora
Sunday Driver
When I Awoke
Let’s All Fly Away
She
Simple Type
I Am a New Man
She Goes

The gig caused no reaction from the crowd so for their next couple of shows they added cover songs including "Tuesday Afternoon” (Moody Blues), “Rock Me Baby”(Jeff Beck Group), “All Right Now”(Free), “Rock & Roll Woman”(Buffalo Springfield), “Locomotive Breath” (Jethro Tull), “When You Dance”(Neil Young), & “Jumpin’ Jack Flash(Rolling Stones). They played shows in Linden, NJ where they played a prom at McManus Jr. High(where keyboardist Brooke Ostrander taught) which went well, Atlantic City, South Fallsburg, NY, & a small town just outside South Fallsburg. The South Fallsburg show was outside a movie theater under a bridge where people were constantly diving into the water. The band had the amps too close to the water causing poor sound. The gig outside of South Fallsburg was in a movie theater where they played before & after a movie. For the set before the movie the band had their amps lying flat on the stage so people could see the screen & after the movie they stood the amps up & played to at least 40 people.

Once the band went into the studio to record is when they officially changed their name to Wicked Lester. The band began toying with “Firehouse” which ended up on the debut but nothing really became of it. The band wanted to record all original material but producer Ron Johnson had them record some cover songs that were sitting around the Studio. “(We Want To) Shout it Out” was a demo by the Hollies, “What Happens in the Darkness” was by a band called Infinity, & two of the songs (“Sweet Ophelia” & “When the Bell Rings”) were written by Barry Mann who had a novelty hit with “Who Put the Bomp in the Bomp?”. Stephen Stills was in the studio recording an album & he actually supplied the lead solo on “Sweet Ophelia” but later once Ron Leejack joined the band Ron Johnson preferred Leejack’s solo & erased the version with Stills.

Shortly after the Wicked Lester album was rejected Simmons & Stanley were upset so they brought the vinyl demo album to a radio station on the shores of NJ to get the public’s opinion of it. As the DJ played the record it kept skipping so the DJ asked for people to call in & voice their opinion of the band. No calls were coming in so during a commercial break Gene & Paul called friends to have them call in & the first call that came through was a female. The DJ asked her why she was calling to talk about this band & the girl said “Because they asked me to!” which caused instant embarrassment for Gene & Paul.

Gene & Paul wanted to be more theatrical as Simmons was into Alice Cooper’s scene that was going on at the time as well as the buzz the NY Dolls were creating. They had visions of what the band would dress like: Simmons was to be a Caveman dragging his bass behind him, Paul was to be either a gambler or a gunslinger, Keyboardist Brooke Ostrander was to be an Undertaker, Ron Leejack was to be a spaceman with wings, & drummer Tony Zarella was to be an Italian Fruit vendor. It never ended up happening as Leejack was against it & before they could get the ball rolling someone broke into their loft & stole all their equipment which also led to their demise. That’s when Simmons & Stanley decided it was time for change & start fresh. As I said, they wanted Leejack but not the other two. They hooked up with Peter as a trio & were still under contract as Wicked Lester. In December of 1972 a local newspaper asked of all people, Peter Cris (that’s how it was spelled then) about the album’s release & he said it would be out January 1, 1973 which never happened.

In 1976 CBS/Epic realized who Wicked Lester was & was going to remix the album & release it but Neil Bogart of Casablanca Records (Kiss Label) stepped in & purchased the tapes for $137,500 only to shelve it & give the rights to Gene & Paul
 

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HAHA Awesome thread, Preist. I actually started laughing when I heard how
tinny the guitar sounds in the opening of "Love Her All I Can " but this stuff actually sounds pretty good. I definitely like the ballsier take that Kiss gave it later though.

One last thought, Wicked Lester is IMO a better name then Kiss.
But now after what Kiss has became it's more like KISS!!! then a little kissy-poo.
haha
 
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While they were Rainbow they actually played a few gigs. The first was at Richmond College in Staten Island which held about 500 people (although there were only a few people at the show). That night they played all original material (I had originally read that they played a few covers that night) & Paul admitted that he caught Crabs in the Bathroom. Their setlist for the night was:

Goin’ Blind
About Her
Love Her All I Can
Keep Me Waiting
Suitor
First Time Around
Eskimo Sun
Stanley the Parrot
It’s A Wonder
Movin’ On
Sweet Flora
Sunday Driver
When I Awoke
Let’s All Fly Away
She
Simple Type
I Am a New Man
She Goes

The gig caused no reaction from the crowd so for their next couple of shows they added cover songs including "Tuesday Afternoon” (Moody Blues), “Rock Me Baby”(Jeff Beck Group), “All Right Now”(Free), “Rock & Roll Woman”(Buffalo Springfield), “Locomotive Breath” (Jethro Tull), “When You Dance”(Neil Young), & “Jumpin’ Jack Flash(Rolling Stones). They played shows in Linden, NJ where they played a prom at McManus Jr. High(where keyboardist Brooke Ostrander taught) which went well, Atlantic City, South Fallsburg, NY, & a small town just outside South Fallsburg. The South Fallsburg show was outside a movie theater under a bridge where people were constantly diving into the water. The band had the amps too close to the water causing poor sound. The gig outside of South Fallsburg was in a movie theater where they played before & after a movie. For the set before the movie the band had their amps lying flat on the stage so people could see the screen & after the movie they stood the amps up & played to at least 40 people.

Once the band went into the studio to record is when they officially changed their name to Wicked Lester. The band began toying with “Firehouse” which ended up on the debut but nothing really became of it. The band wanted to record all original material but producer Ron Johnson had them record some cover songs that were sitting around the Studio. “(We Want To) Shout it Out” was a demo by the Hollies, “What Happens in the Darkness” was by a band called Infinity, & two of the songs (“Sweet Ophelia” & “When the Bell Rings”) were written by Barry Mann who had a novelty hit with “Who Put the Bomp in the Bomp?”. Stephen Stills was in the studio recording an album & he actually supplied the lead solo on “Sweet Ophelia” but later once Ron Leejack joined the band Ron Johnson preferred Leejack’s solo & erased the version with Stills.

Shortly after the Wicked Lester album was rejected Simmons & Stanley were upset so they brought the vinyl demo album to a radio station on the shores of NJ to get the public’s opinion of it. As the DJ played the record it kept skipping so the DJ asked for people to call in & voice their opinion of the band. No calls were coming in so during a commercial break Gene & Paul called friends to have them call in & the first call that came through was a female. The DJ asked her why she was calling to talk about this band & the girl said “Because they asked me to!” which caused instant embarrassment for Gene & Paul.

Gene & Paul wanted to be more theatrical as Simmons was into Alice Cooper’s scene that was going on at the time as well as the buzz the NY Dolls were creating. They had visions of what the band would dress like: Simmons was to be a Caveman dragging his bass behind him, Paul was to be either a gambler or a gunslinger, Keyboardist Brooke Ostrander was to be an Undertaker, Ron Leejack was to be a spaceman with wings, & drummer Tony Zarella was to be an Italian Fruit vendor. It never ended up happening as Leejack was against it & before they could get the ball rolling someone broke into their loft & stole all their equipment which also led to their demise. That’s when Simmons & Stanley decided it was time for change & start fresh. As I said, they wanted Leejack but not the other two. They hooked up with Peter as a trio & were still under contract as Wicked Lester. In December of 1972 a local newspaper asked of all people, Peter Cris (that’s how it was spelled then) about the album’s release & he said it would be out January 1, 1973 which never happened.

In 1976 CBS/Epic realized who Wicked Lester was & was going to remix the album & release it but Neil Bogart of Casablanca Records (Kiss Label) stepped in & purchased the tapes for $137,500 only to shelve it & give the rights to Gene & Paul
 

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Hi
I was just discussing Brooke with someone. I was a student of his in 1971 in Linden and spent many nights in his apt. in Roselle NJ with him, Paul and Gene. I jammed with those guys at a very early age as you can imagine and recorded Wicked Lester at one of those gigs in Staten Island, I believe it was their first. I also recorded them at my 9th grade spring dance. Wish I had those tapes today!

Brooke was a great innovator as teachers went in 1971. Our spring festival had us playing the overture from Tommy as well as special ensemble called group 18 where Brooke played flute with us and we played stuff that was never imagined in those days on the stage at McManus Jr.High School. We even did a Tull cover and Neil Youngs "I've been waiting for you" from his first LP. It was a special night and the parents and admin hated it. Part of the reason he was canned, that plus I think he was caught banging a hot sub!

Thinking back to that time it was extraordinary to think what they became and to say I knew them well. Funny thing, Going Blind was such a good tune and while I was never a big Kiss fan one thanks giving I was traveling with my ex to a cousins home and we were listening to WDHA. They were playing nothing but concerts that day and Going Blind came on, it might have even been an unplugged ver. and it brought me back to a special place. Thanks for sharing you info.
Btw, sadly Brooke passed away before I could find i=him and thank him for one of the most provocative and musically affected years of my life. His influence took me to places that I never dreamed of at that young age.

Shabbus
 
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The guitar player, Stephen Coronel, isn't too bad in his own right. I wonder whatever became of him... :huh:


I recently read somewhere that he is in prison for child porn. If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't just "in possession of", but rather they found evidence that he had been uploading it somewhere.
 

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