METALPRIEST
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The Who Sell Out
The Who Sell Out
The Who (Official Thread)
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It's lucky Townshend was not convicted in that child pornography/computer thing. Post Jimmy Savile, there is a lot less leeway and much more chance of a conviction.
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From 'My Generation' to 'Quadrophenia' I have all albums on Vinyl. Later releases ('By Numbers', 'Who are you?') are weaker in my opinion.
In their heydays in the late sixties/early seventies they were one of the best live acts of all time. Much more inspired and energetic than for example Led Zeppelin.
My dad & my uncle watched them live twice in 1969 & '70. A few weeks later, in July 1970, they attended a Led Zep concert in Frankfurt (Festhalle).
Both claim that - compared with the Who - Page, Plant, Bonham & Jones were on stage rather slumbrous....
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From 'My Generation' to 'Quadrophenia' I have all albums on Vinyl. Later releases ('By Numbers', 'Who are you?') are weaker in my opinion.
In their heydays in the late sixties/early seventies they were one of the best live acts of all time. Much more inspired and energetic than for example Led Zeppelin.
My dad & my uncle watched them live twice in 1969 & '70. A few weeks later, in July 1970, they attended a Led Zep concert in Frankfurt (Festhalle).
Both claim that - compared with the Who - Page, Plant, Bonham & Jones were on stage rather slumbrous....
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^^I never saw either band live but there has never been any doubt about The Who being one of the greatest live acts in rock music history, not only that but they changed the way live shows were presented on every level.
The massive complex stages/PA systems we see now are due to their pioneering work back in the early days.
Zeppelin was taking all kinds of criticism the last couple of times they toured, it was obvious to everyone they were going through the motions, compared to early tours anyway.
The massive complex stages/PA systems we see now are due to their pioneering work back in the early days.
Zeppelin was taking all kinds of criticism the last couple of times they toured, it was obvious to everyone they were going through the motions, compared to early tours anyway.
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I've noticed the same thing about Zep when I saw some concert footage I think at Knebworth,England in 1979.THey did seem to be losing more than a little of that energetic spark that was such a big part of their earlier successes,on both record and in in concert.Their final effort,"In THrough The Out Door" rather sounds as though it could have been done by scores of rock outfits whereas the first six records all have many qualtities unique to the band.Personally,I think even if John Bonham hadn't succumbed to alcoholism in 1980,the band wouldn't have gone on much longer.By then,they had pretty much accomplished everything they set out to do as "The New Yardbirds" as they were originally named...................
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For Led Zeppelin:
From what I've heard on 'The Song Remains The Same', on some bootlegs (Blueberry Hill, 1971) and official recordings ('How The West Was Won', containing live footage of 1972), I hesitate to put this group even among the 20 best live acts of the late sixties/early seventies. The Who & 'The Rolling Stones' before 1972 on the other hand rank live Top 5 in my eyes.
Without the help of their technicans and sound engineers, there was obvioulsy a big difference between Led Zep in the studio and Led Zep on stage.
Real great live bands by contrast were able to deliver a great sound without later overdubs and tricks.
Listen for example to the classic 'The Allman Brothers Band at Fillmore East' (1971)
The Allman Brothers played live in a totally different league than the overrated Led Zeppelin.
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Indeed,it was only natural for Led Zep to sound better on record than up on the stage.Not only was Jimmy Page hugely particular about what that band laid down on vinyl,but also John Paul Jones had had previous experience as producer/arranger,having worked with the likes of Herman's Hermits and Donovan.I understand he did some uncredited work in these areas on the Zeppelin recordings.I haven't heard that Allman Brothers set in its entirety,but what I did hear did indeed possess serious studio quality.They probably wouldn't have done things any differently in the studio.They were a more raw sounding blues outfit where Led Zeppelin seemed highly insistent on complex overdubs of various levels of studio wizardry..............
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'Live at the Fillmore' contains longer versions with great improvisations and variations of some of their shorter studio tracks (('Whipping Post', 'In Memory of Elisabeth Red') from the Allman Brothers' first two albums.
All three groups: The Allman Brothers Band , Led Zeppelin, and The Who had great individual musicians. However, while The Allman Brothers & The Who (and also The Rolling Stones in their heydays) generally performed as a unit on stage and complemented each other, the interaction of the Led Zep members were live on stage rarely so strong, creative and inspired....
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'Live at the Fillmore' contains longer versions with great improvisations and variations of some of their shorter studio tracks (('Whipping Post', 'In Memory of Elisabeth Red') from the Allman Brothers' first two albums.
All three groups: The Allman Brothers Band , Led Zeppelin, and The Who had great individual musicians. However, while The Allman Brothers & The Who (and also The Rolling Stones in their heydays) generally performed as a unit on stage and complemented each other, the interaction of the Led Zep members were live on stage rarely so strong, creative and inspired....
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METALPRIEST
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Screw me!!! Where the hell is that footage of Pete Townshend talking about Keith Moon when he collapsed onstage...and he went to go see him in the hospital. When Keith woke up all he could say was "Help"...it's a funny scene and I really wanted to see this again. I watched Amazing Journey, Isle Of Wight and Kids Are Alright and I have not seen it yet. Getting ready to try Maximum R&B but geting very discouraged!
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Maximum R&B it is
