Discussion in 'Everything else' started by Soot and Stars, Jul 15, 2010.
Which is what made 2Pac great but Eminem doesn't even rap about those themes!
And that's your opinion based on your view. His whole persona drips of "wigger" which does promote that culture and has promoted himself as an absolute detroiter and street person. I think some of these rockers you speak of might be putting on the dog but they aren't really being any more than a cliche and many of them are just the way they appear but they aren't promoting something through a persona that they aren't/wannabe. I don't care for any of the over top personas but again my afforementioned points in this and the first post. I also can't stand poseurs like kid rock who grew up in romeo lol which as far as I know isn't even know where near the metro area. Of course he has at least let his true redneck ways bleed through over time.
I even see it down in bama 1000 miles away in the boonies where white redneck trailer park trash think by swaggering around in crooked caps and baggy pants that their wet behind the ears selves are ghetto and look at some "old fart" like me without knowing where and when I came from and been through and assume I don't know crap because I don't where designer brand ghetto gear from the mall and act like a criminal. Again, I lived through those detroit murder city days of the 70's and early to mid 80's and was more than glad to try to leave it behind and try to progress. A person can fight the good fight without putting on the dog and believe you and me I've recently went rounds over a lazy crooked local law enforcement agency and a crooked land developer and all without the "yo" image and acting in a mature manner. I know about hard times and could probably write a small book on it and don't need the image to back it up.
While some of these poseurs are promoting the ghetto image to make the $ this is what I grew up in.......... .........and might have actually had run ins with some of these people in this video back in the day.
I'm not trying to be something or trying to argue but just giving my point of view based on my age and experiences. I forgot who it was but in an interview during the 2006 superbowl in detroit a celebrity scoffed at people like emenim and kid rock by saying....."unlike those who claim to be from detroit I really did grow up in detroit" and if memory serves me right it was an actor from the in living color show.
Anyways have a good day.
I would debate this further with you but I think I would be holding to my main point about his lyrical themes being removed from what you said. I'm not about to take away your personal experience from you and to debate would lead to obvious misunderstandings. Even when it comes to Kid Rock I'm not even ahuge fan but I see nothing fake about being from a rural small town upbringing and loving both Hip-Hop and Country. I'm not one to mimic any culture, image or style aesthetically from any genre I listen to. I see it as an expression that hits my ears and I don't tend to debate what there real intentions are. My source is the music and what I hear and when I listen to Eminem I hear a guy who stands out because he rapped about different themes that ween't about being from the streets. He rapped about his Mom, his daughter, his ex in a way that's very dark but nowhere near Gangsta shooting themes or boasting where he came from. The rest of his career was about personal downfalls and changing direction from that. Anyway, I'm only trying to be civil here and discuss the subject rather tha try to take away your experience. Peace!
It's nice to see Eminem and 50 Cent. together
Eminem apologizes to his mom in music video 'Headlights' released on Mother's Read m
Eminem apologizes to his mom in music video 'Headlights' released on Mother's Day.
Eminem took the opportunity to apologize to his mom on Mother's Day.
The Detroit rapper released the Spike Lee-directed music video "Headlights" featuring fun. frontman Nate Ruess.
The emotional tribute scans over Eminem's troubled childhood being raised by a single mother who struggled with alcohol addiction. Despite her hangups, the rapper, whose real name is Marshall Mathers, apologized for feeding into their estranged relationship by speaking ill of her earlier in his music career.
Read more: Eminem apologizes to his mom in music video 'Headlights' released on Mother's Day - NY Daily News
I wonder if she'll apologize for suing him for millions of dollars.
I like the track but then again it's one of my favorite albums of the year and his best overall since the first Marshall Mathers album. The whole album is honest and owns up to a lot. He's a rapper in his forties who's writing and acting like a rapper in his forties and moving on from grudges is part of that. He raps about being out of the loop on many things and if it weren't for his amazing skills with the best rhyming he's done in years you'd almost be pressed to wonder how he's so popular!
I have heard his las album, and I think it is his best yet. My daughter has it
This is my favorite! I think it's a brilliant sample and the lyrics are great!
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