Most overrated rock artists of all time?

[Hepcat]

Rush is not overrated. Some of the most talented musicians in one band u will find

Talented musicians/instrumentalists don't automatically make for a good band. The reason I think Rush is overrated is because fellows like you rave about the musicianship of their members, but there are no Rush records I prefer hearing to those of bands rarely lauded for "musicianship" such as the Animals, Kinks, Jefferson Airplane, Doors and the Turtles.

 

[runtfan]

Talented musicians/instrumentalists don't automatically make for a good band. The reason I think Rush is overrated is because fellows like you rave about the musicianship of their members, but there are no Rush records I prefer hearing to those of bands rarely lauded for "musicianship" such as the Animals, Kinks, Jefferson Airplane, Doors and the Turtles.

And just because you don't like Rush as much as the Animals, Kinks, etc. doesn't mean that Rush aren't indeed a good band. It's mostly subjective anyway, but any evidence that there is is working against you I'm afraid.
I do agree, in theory, with your point but Rush is a colossally bad example to use to make your case.

 

[LG]

I like Rush more than any of the bands in Hep's summary, but I like them all as well.

RF is right it's all subjective and personal opinion, and almost all the overrated artists/bands posted in this thread, I like anyway.

 

[gregjohnson1229]

Yeah, race was a HUGE influence on popular music and everything around it back in those days. DJs lost jobs sometimes for playing "race records"...some venues wouldn't host any black artists at all. Anybody who doesn't think race was a HUGE influence and obstacle in music ( and most any other aspect of American life) in the 50's doesn't know their history too well. I think Elvis kinda split the difference - if he had been black he couldn't have reached that level of popularity, but he was still more "dangerous" than most white performers of the time.
No knock against Elvis but if he had been black he would never have been any bigger than Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino or any of those guys.

thank you. you know your history. Race is still an issue today in rock music. On youtube any band that as fronted by a black singer for example sevendust, bloc party, skindred, ect there are so many comments about the frontmen being black or comments like he is pretty good for being black. I am a black rock artist with country incfluences. I have gotten my share of beer bottles thrown at me along with comments like N*****s dont belong in rock while on stage. So if race is still an issue today in rock music you know it was in the 50's. I never said Elvis wasn't talented. A lot of people are but thet are not dubbed the king of rock n roll. Chuck Berry put together all the essential elements that makes rock n roll. If radio in the 50's had a category called race music how was i not an issue when it came to Elvis. The mass media was waiting for someone who wasnt black to come out with credible talent playing rock n roll music. Elvis had once been quoted saying "i wouldn't let a black man shine my shoes, "

 

[gregjohnson1229]

Talented musicians/instrumentalists don't automatically make for a good band. The reason I think Rush is overrated is because fellows like you rave about the musicianship of their members, but there are no Rush records I prefer hearing to those of bands rarely lauded for "musicianship" such as the Animals, Kinks, Jefferson Airplane, Doors and the Turtles.

I respect your opinion and i could understand your point. i just love really good jam/prog bands. i have always been a fan of instrumentals.

 

[Hepcat]

Runtfan:

... doesn't mean that Rush aren't indeed a good band. It's mostly subjective anyway, but any evidence that there is is working against you I'm afraid.

Actually there is evidence in my favour. The music of Rush isn't that "accessible" overall. Just how many big hit singles has the band had? Yes, yes, I know you're going to point to Britney Spears and all having hit singles but hit singles are one of those textbook necessary but not sufficient conditions.

I do agree, in theory, with your point but Rush is a colossally bad example to use to make your case.

The irony here is that I'd like to like Rush since the band is from just down the road in Hamilton - but Rush tunes just cause me to frown.

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[Foxhound]

longevity without any quallity isnt worth it. saw the stones a few years ago one of the most forgettable concerts i have ever paid for.

Are you saying that the Rolling Stones never delivered the quality or are you saying that they have lost their capability to deliver quality?

 

[LG]

Just a reminder to everyone to stay on topic, seeing there were some heated exchanges last night that became a little too personal, discussing differing opinions is what the forum is for, personal insults have no place in CRF.

 

[Gabble Ratchet]

Being non-accesible doesn't mean they're overrated. I believe hit singles are not completely necessary. i.e Eskimo Joe have never had one song that's took the world by storm, but they've quietly released four albums of songs that are unrelentlessly good. 48 tracks of great music without ever making it big, or having one song stand above the rest.

If you don't like Rush then you don't like them. But that doesn't mean they're overrated. Rush have a significant fanbase (including me) of people who like what they hear. Their music is quality, you can't deny that. Even if it doesn't fit your taste, they still have boundless talent.

 

[starman]

thank you. you know your history. Race is still an issue today in rock music. On youtube any band that as fronted by a black singer for example sevendust, bloc party, skindred, ect there are so many comments about the frontmen being black or comments like he is pretty good for being black. I am a black rock artist with country incfluences. I have gotten my share of beer bottles thrown at me along with comments like N*****s dont belong in rock while on stage. So if race is still an issue today in rock music you know it was in the 50's. I never said Elvis wasn't talented. A lot of people are but thet are not dubbed the king of rock n roll. Chuck Berry put together all the essential elements that makes rock n roll. If radio in the 50's had a category called race music how was i not an issue when it came to Elvis. The mass media was waiting for someone who wasnt black to come out with credible talent playing rock n roll music. Elvis had once been quoted saying "i wouldn't let a black man shine my shoes, "

This is thee most unsubstantiated post concerning music I have EVER read. Your comments are ENTIRELY race and opinion motivated and anyone that does not stand with me on this is just playing the politically correct BS argument put forth by the "we're entitled to this and that" mentality that has been present since NAACP did it's best to destroy real equality based on REAL merit and not the color of someone's skin, began.

Please cite your sources if you are going to make claims like those above. Let's see 'em.

Are you telling me that Chuck Berry, Ike Turner (who was a woman beating drug addict, that certainly didn't help his credibility) & Little Richard weren't as HUGE as Bill Haley, Dick Dale & Jerry Lee Lewis? Because if you are, you are COMPLETELY wrong.

Race my ass. Jimi Hendrix was/is the GREATEST guitarist to ever effect the natural evolution of the of the electric guitar within contemporary rock music's history. He has ALWAYS been acclaimed as such. Where's the racial exclusion? Don't give me this Hollywood race exclusion BS and try to state that artists would have been more or less successful blah, blah, blah. It's nonsense and pure conjecture. Unless you can prove what you state, when in fact it's YOU that don't know your history, you are just one more cause within the REAL equality of race's degradation. Just because someone is not bright enough, or more directly, has not been around long enough to see that, doesn't mean it's not the truth.

I good and guarantee you one thing. President Barrack Obama never sat around playing the boo hoo race card and neither did all the black Wall Street moguls that make more money in a day that you or I will make in a lifetime. STOP feeling sorry for the color of your skin.

I'll say it again and really don't care how yours or my comments are interpreted. Your statement that Elvis (whom I am not even a fan of) wouldn't have been as popular as he was if his skin was a different color, is SHEER RACISM. If it's not, PROVE IT.

What utter childish nonsense. I thought you people were into music and not politics. Just more of the blame game.

BTW, what does this Chuck Berry/Elvis's skin color have to do with "most overrated" anyhow? This is supposed to be a clearly opinion based thread about those that are underrated. NOT some conspiracy based political cocktail clique party.