Top 10 Rock Tragedies

[Lynch]

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My opinion on music "tragedies" differs from most. To me, people that die of excess (drug or alcohol abuse) or people that kill themselves don't die tragic deaths, they die stupid and in some cases very selfish deaths. Is their death a loss to the music community and to their fans? of course it is. Is their passing unfortunate. Absolutely.

What I consider to be tragic, is when someone dies due to circumstances out of their control. Being murdered, dying in an accident (plane, train or automobile), or someone dying of disease NOT caused by a lifestyle choice.

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So, who do I think were the most tragic rock deaths?

John Lennon (murdered)
Stevie Ray Vaughan (helicopter crash)
Randy Rhoads (airplane crash)
Ronnie van Zandt / Steve Gains / Allen Collins (airplane crash)
Duane Allman (motorcycle accident)
Eric Carr (cancer)
Cliff Burton (tour bus accident)
Darryl Abbot (murdered)
Buddy Holly, Big Bopper, Ritchie Valens (plane crash)
Robert Johnson (poisoned)
Sam Kinison (car accident)
Terry Kath (gun accident)
Marvin Gaye (murdered)
Cass Elliot (choked)
Otis Redding (airplane crash)
Sam Cooke (murdered)
Bobby Fuller (murdered)


The list would go on and on, but these are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head that I would consider to be tragic losses and people dying before their time, not of old age or 20+ years after their career was over.


Stupid, unnecessary and preventable deaths?

Kurt Cobain (suicide)
Jimi Hendrix (OD)
Janis Joplin (OD)
Steve Clark (Booze)
Rory Gallagher (Booze)
Freddie Mercury (pneumonia related to aids)
Michael Hutchence (sex-related suicide)
Brian Jones (booze/drug related drowning)
Wendy O Williams (suicide)
Jim Morrison (heart attack caused by...?)
John Bonham (Booze)
Keith Moon (OD)
Bon Scott (booze)
Robin Crosby (aids-related illnesses)

Again, this list would be quite long if you listed everyone, but just a few of the bigger names


And for the record, my lists and my personal definitions are not meant to upset anyone who is a fan of any of these artists. All of those on the lower list, and so many more would have been preventable if not for indulgent lifestyle choices, or the selfishness and finality of suicide. It's just my opinion.


One last thing. I'm only going on "tragedies" as in deaths, not people that were nuts or simply removed themselves from the music scene (ie: Syd Barrett and Peter Green) Again, no offense to anyone who was fans of people with these types of issues, I just dont' consider that to be a 'tragedy'

 

[Hepcat]

To me, people that die of excess (drug or alcohol abuse) or people that kill themselves don't die tragic deaths, they die stupid (deaths)....

Good point.

 

[TheFeldster]

John Lennon
Jimi Hendrix
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Roy Orbison
Jim Morrison
George Harrison
Jim Croce
Bon Scott
Duane Allman
Kurt Cobain


I think Roy Orbison needs a mention for having a heart attack just as he was revitalizing his career (with "Traveling Wilburys Volume 1" just out and "Mystery Girl" nearly ready for release). Also Jim Croce, who died in a plane crash just before his classic album "I Got A Name" was released.

The rest of mine have already been mentioned and documented in this thread

 

[Foxhound]

While substance abuse was the key factor behind Brian Jones being dropped from the Rolling Stones, it may not have been a factor in his death, at least on Brian's part. There's evidence to suggest that he drowned as a result of overly aggressive horseplay in the pool on the part of one of the workmen he'd hired to renovate his house.

 

[*Manimal]

#1 for me is Peter Green ~

Fleetwood Mac - Back From Brink, Peter Green Plays

(Dec. 1996) After years of battling schizophrenia brought on by drug use, the former Fleetwood Mac guitarist is beginning a major British tour.
LONDON--We live in the era of the comeback, but few have been more emotional than the return of Peter Green, co-founder of Fleetwood Mac.

Once one of the most feted guitarists in British rock, Green became the ultimate acid casualty and spent time over a period of years in mental hospitals and clinics undergoing electroconvulsive therapy. He gave away much of his money. His wildly unpredictable behavior was splashed across the tabloid press, and he acknowledges that his illness was brought on by hallucinogenic drugs that his delicate mental equilibrium could not handle.

Today, Green is 50 and lives in semirural Surrey in southern England, with caring friends who have helped him inch his way back toward normalcy. His behavior is no longer frightening, although he remains endearingly eccentric. Last summer he began a tentative comeback with a festival appearance in Guildford and a few low-key dates in Germany. Now he is embarking on a major tour of Britain for the first time in nearly two decades.

The first thing you notice on meeting Green is the delicacy of his handshake. "I have to look after my fingers because I'm supposed to play a bit," says the man B.B. King once described as the only white guitarist--Eric Clapton included--who sent shivers up his spine.

Green's modesty is genuine. He complains that promoters insist on billing "the legendary Peter Green" above his band, the Splinter Group, and he looks forward to renewed success so that his name can be dropped. "That's what happened before. It was originally called Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac but when we made it big, my name disappeared."

And they were big. By 1969, after a string of such hits as "Black Magic Woman" and "Man of the World," Fleetwood Mac was voted Britain's best band by readers of the pop music weekly New Musical Express. But by May of the next year, it was not only Green's name that had disappeared. "It was a freedom thing. I wanted to go and live on a commune in Germany. In the end I never did, but I had toget away. Acid had a lot to do with it."

The drugs tipped Green over the edge into what was eventually diagnosed as schizophrenia. He stopped making music, gave his guitars away (many of his most treasured possessions ended up in an Oxfam shop) and went into a steep and rapid decline. He was eventually committed to a hospital, but today he tells the harrowing story dispassionately. "I was throwing things around and smashing things up. I smashed the car wind screen. The police took me to the station and asked me if I wanted to go to the hospital. I said yes because I didn't feel safe going back anywhere else."

What followed was a nightmare. "They gave me tranquilizers, and I didn't really know much about it. It was a struggle just to stay awake. You don't know what you are doing. You don't feel alive."

Michelle Reynolds, in whose house Green now lives, says: "Sometimes he would stand in the garden with me for hours and not say a word. The hospital had him on 17 pills a day.

Green knows that he will never be what most people would describe as completely normal. "I still hear voices in my head," he says. "It is only one voice, a woman I met in the hospital. There were some scary people there, and she is pretty heavy, but I haven't heard her for a bit."

When he made it back from the brink, he started to play the guitar for the first time in years. "It hurt my fingers at first, and I am still relearning," Green says. "What I have discovered is simplicity. Back to basics. I used to worry and make things very complicated. Now I keep it simple."

The next step was a band. Among others,the veteran session drummer Cozy Powell and guitarist Nigel Watson, Reynolds' brother, were enlisted. Now, Green seems to be as contented as a man who has been to hell and back can be. He is affable and clearly enjoys playing again. "It isn't work," he says. "Work and music don't mix. It has to be pleasure or else I can't do it."

The man who once horrified his business managers by giving away much of his fortune says that today he has no idea what he is worth; the royalties are still rolling in, but he leaves others to take care of the finances. "I'm told that I have enough, and I have started collecting guitars," he says. "If I want a new one I can go out and buy it, and if I want to buy a new car I can."

Sadly, he has not yet resumed his songwriting--"I don't feel I have anything I need to say in a song"--and he is also ambivalent about the handful of his classics that the new band performs. "We do 'Albatross,' 'Black Magic Woman' and 'Green Manilishi,' but I only play the rhythm on 'Albatross,' " he says. "I don't want it to be Fleetwood Mac again."

His natural diffidence means that Green finds it hard to cope with being treated as a rock legend. "So far it has been OK, but I haven't really been back long enough to say."

There will be a live album from the new tour, "mostly blues stuff I enjoy doing, things like 'Goin' Down' and a couple of Robert Johnson songs." But Green then resurrects a 1960s chestnut, much debated in student union bars of the time. "White men can't really play the blues," he says adamantly. When pressed, he concedes that Clapton "doesn't do badly" but seems incredulous that his own work should be rated alongside the great black American guitarists.

Finally, given what he has been through,would he turn back the clock? "There would be no point," he says. "I'd only do the same things all over again."



From ~ Schizophrenia.com

Yeah, I originally had Peter Green on there, but I ended up replacing him with Janis Joplin.

 

[METALPRIEST]

John Lennon
Jimi Hendrix
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Buddy Holly,Ritchie Valens,Big Bopper
Elvis
Eric Carr
Randy Rhodes
Doug Fieger
Hannah Montana

KIDDING!!! Couldn't think of a 10th..kids are being too loud.

 

[Flower]

Sam Cooke


Cooke died on December 11, 1964, in Los Angeles, California. He was shot to death by Bertha Franklin, manager of the Hacienda Motel in South Los Angeles, who claimed that he had threatened her, and that she killed him in self-defense. The shooting was ultimately ruled to be a justifiable homicide.

 

[Flower]

Marc Bolan of T. Rex


Bolan died on September 16, 1977. He was a passenger in a purple Mini 1275GT driven by Gloria Jones as they headed home from a London pub. Jones lost control of the speeding car and it struck a tree, killing Bolan instantly.

 

[Flower]

Harry Chapin

Chapin was killed on his way to a gig on July 16, 1981, when a tractor-trailer slammed into the back of his 1975 Volkswagen Rabbit, rupturing the gas tank and causing it to burst into flames.

 

[LG]

01. Bonham's death which ended Led Zeppelin.
02. The beginning of Rap Rock. Someone needs to shoot the inventor!
03. the combined deaths of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J.P. Richardson.
04. the combined deaths of Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gains, Allen Collins
05. Jimi Hendrix
06. Stevie Ray Vaugh
07. Randy Rhoades
08. Duane Allman
09. Layne Staley
10. Jeff Healey

Edit: after more careful thinking, I dropped Jim Morrison off my list and added Jeff Healey...he was such an inspiration for the blind.

That was a great pick Magic, wished I had thought of it.