Ted Nugent (Official Thread)

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One of the greatest rock axemen around....even though Frank Marino beat the hell out his guitar playing on many an occasion:)
 

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One of the greatest rock axemen around....even though Frank Marino beat the hell out his guitar playing on many an occasion:)


They were so different with respect to their playing styles. I think those "battles" were about 50/50 in terms of victors. Of course I am familiar and know exactly what "battles" you are referring to. It was a big thing for a short while back in the early to mid 70s.

I remember one time that Frank got in BIG trouble for it to. He promoted a concert at Cobo Arena exclaiming that it would consist of the biggest guitar battle that he and the Nuge had ever had. Now, you have to remember (if you are old enough, or please just imagine if you're not), Frank was always very low profile compared to Nugent on a US national level. Frank is from Canada and although he played a great deal in and around the Detroit area, his national recognition was next to nil. Nugent had the long term US radio familiarity of the Amboy Dukes and their many incarnations going for him, and about the only thing that Frank had going for him at the time, was that he was billing himself as the REAL reincarnation of Jimmy Hendrix. That's right, for MANY years Frank claimed that Jimi's spirit inhabited his body and had literally taught him how to play the guitar. So, MR. Marino had really been using the whole "battle" thing as a "change over" tactic to sell tickets more than anything else.

Frank had posters up everywhere that served to spread the word and preach the gospel of his God like guitar prowess. He had adds in magazines, he had flyers in record stores, there were even announcements on the radio. All to the effect that he and MR. Nugent were going at it once and for all in a battle supreem extraordinaire. Well, when it came time for his concert at Cobo, Frank had managed to exceed even his expectations in ticket sales. The place was packed and people were going crazy. People were screaming Nugent, Nugent, Nugent...while others were chanting Frank, Frank, Frank and the place was growing crazier and crazier as people stomped, screamed and built to a general frenzy.

All of a sudden the lights go on full in the arena and there is man on the stage who announces, I'm sorry to inform everyone, but Ted Nugent will not be here attendance tonight. The place went NUTZ! I mean people were PISSED. They were throwing chairs, storming the stage and I am here to tell you that general pandemonium ensued. Guess what? The concert was canceled and Frank had to refund all the tickets if they were so requested to be refunded. It came out on the radio a day later that Frank had not even bothered to contact the Nuge about the whole thing but had just assumed he would show to save face. Problem was, he was on tour somewhere else (like in a different country) and couldn't be there. :lmao:

Needless to say this matter didn't exactly help Frank's PR in the States, as per usual, the promoters and radio stations that helped to foot the bill for the event lost considerable money on the whole thing.

I am STILL a HUGE Frank Marino fan to this day. I even have kept up with his latest CD releases. My favorite being his excellent jazz tinged live 2 CD set from a few years ago.

Still in yet, I don't think there can be any doubt who left the larger hard rock legacy. IMO, The Power of Rock & Roll was Franks best (that and his mighty live LP which RULES, listen to it all the time) studio record, and it didn't even compare to the pummeling weight of Ted's S/T album.
 

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I never got into Frank Marino, I picked up one of his albums in the mid 70's, the one with his cover of "All Along the Watchtower" and I just never was motivated to get anymore of his albums.

I might be tempted to check out his jazz flavored album, what's the title Starman?
 

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I think it's called Real Live, not absolutely positive though. I have some bootlegs by Frank from small bar/clubs that are KILLER too. You owe it to yourself LG to check out Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush Live. That album will blow your mind.
 

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You could start a thread on him Starman, I have limited knowledge about him so I can't do it myself...just tossing that out there.;)

I'll look around and see if I can find that album thanks.:tup:
 

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Ted ( and Angus ) are the king of power cords, yea maybe they don't play like David Murray or some others, but they made the bucks off what they knew. Even Teds Love Grenade (2008)has some good riffs, just not the harmony and speed of something from Murray..........you'd never know I like Maiden :D
 

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You could start a thread on him Starman, I have limited knowledge about him so I can't do it myself...just tossing that out there.;)

I'll look around and see if I can find that album thanks.:tup:
Not to try and Derail the Nuge thread here.. But wanted to add just a note about Frank Marino and Mohagany Rush.. Comparing the two is like how do you like your Whiskey.. Nugent (Straight up on the Rocks) Marino.. (110 PROOF with a coffee back)..
An aquired taste so to speak..
Nugent is one loud guitarist in concert.. And he can produce that good Rock sound..
Frank as mentioned didn't really get a lot of attention.. He is compared to another guitarist trying to take over where Hendrix left off..
I have loads of both Nugent and Frank Marino's stuff.. And I don't compare their styles what so ever..
Nugent is easier to remember because he had so many songs out there.. But Marino has some hidden gems as well..
He's excellent in concert.. From blues to trippy effects work..
Example..

Strange Dreams


Then there is this song by Ted.. Love it!!!!

Hey Baby
 
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I remember Hey Baby Thumper, and that was a good way of stating the difference between Marino and Ted.:D
 

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Hey Baby? Cool!

I'm feelin' good right about now....

Snakeskin Cowboys

 

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I always liked Frank Marino & loved that live album from he 70's & if you do want a Kick Ass album of his heck out 'The Power of Rock & Roll'.I also liked 'What's Next'. Marino is one hell of a guitarist & I could not believe how much power he packed into a half hour set when I seen him open for Kansas on the Point of No Return tour. I'm not sure what Snakes meant saying he beat the hell out of Ted's playing on more than one occasion but what I interpeted(in my way of seeing it) from that was in '77/'78 there were a ton of big stadium tours & Cal Jam II was one of the most well known ones. They had a really awesome television special on it back then & while Nugent kicked ass as usual,Frank Marino was friggin' out of this world with a revved up version of Johnny B. Goode & a rocking cover of Purple Haze which led into a really cool fast paced instrumental of ..."The theme from the Mickey Mouse Club". I wish the video from that whole Cal Jam II show would be released because it was cool with Nugent,Marino, Santana,Aerosmith,& Heart to name a few. The double record that was released didn't include "Purple Haze" (although back then it was on the King Biscuit Flower Hour)but that performance has stuck in my head for over 30 years & after seeing that special I could understand where Snakes is coming from. As I said Nugent's performance was total kick-ass especially "Free For All" which that was the first time I heard him yell out "When in doubt I just whip it right out...I'm a Mother F'er I do declare!"
It's the same as me watching the Woodstock movie & saying Alvin Lee totally blew Hendrix Away which in my opinion he did.

MP, "Hey Baby" along w/ "Snakeskin Cowboys" are my Top 2 Nugent tunes!!!!!
 

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