Genesis (Official Thread)

[Magic]

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Selling England By The Pound is = to Nursery Cryme

 

[Gabble Ratchet]

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You are talking about one of my all time favorites, particularly the five man classic lineup of Gabriel, Hackett, Banks, Rutherford, and Collins.
I`ll be receiving the Genesis box set 1970-75 for Xmas. I cannot wait. It`s sad how a grown man digresses into a big baby for the holidays
I`ll go out on a limb here and state that the loss of Steve Hackett was more damaging to the band than Gabriel`s. It was Hackett(my fave guitarist), alongside Banks who was more responsible for the adventurous and exploratory elements within the band. after hackett departed, the songwriting became more streamlined and slick. I may not have enjoyed it that much, but obvioulsy many people did back in the 8o`s, because the band did sell more records.
I`m not knocking all of Genesis`s output in the 80`s. there were some great moments, particularly 'Mama', 'Domino', and 'The Brazillian', which was more down to Tony Banks' capabilties as an arranger and composer. Other than that much of 80`s genesis sounded similiar to material from Collins' solo albums There were many people back in the 80`s that did feel Collins and Genesis were one and the same. Quite wrong.
Tony banks is without a doubt, the finest keyboardist I have ever heard. he never overplayed and always wrote for the song. He was tasteful and restrained, never given to excess histrionic 10 minute keyboard soloing.
And if you will allow me, my top five Genesis albums
1. The lamb Lies down on Broadway(this album deserves it`s own thread. I think I will start one.)
2. A Trick of the Tail
3. Selling england by the Pound
4. Nursey cryme
5. Foxtrot

Always good to see another fanatic, and I agree that Tony Banks was brilliant. Unfortunately I haven't got into The Lamb as much as I probably should, although judging from the pictures on google, the live show looks incredible.

Nursey Cryme > Everything

 

[annie]

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I might be severely whipped for this, but I never really liked Genesis

I never liked them in the beginning. It was long and tedious and wasn't going anywhere. So I stopped listening. Last year a friend of mine convinced me to buy the Genesis Platinum Collection and surprise surprise I did hear a lot of stuff that I really liked. All the songs mentioned above are on it. I recommend it for someone who is not familiar with the music.

 

[Aktivator]

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genesis's run of albums from Trespass to wind & Wuthering is top of the charts for me. I'll take this string of albums over just about anyone's catalog.
My favorite is Lamb mostly for the first three sides of the original vinyl which is genius. I like some stuff after Hackett left but to me the best stuff was with the core 5(Collins, Gabriel, Hackett, Rutherford and Banks).

I also love Gabriel's solo albums and Phil's best non-Genesis stuff can be found with Phil's progressive fusion Band- "Brand X".

 

[runtfan]

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You are talking about one of my all time favorites, particularly the five man classic lineup of Gabriel, Hackett, Banks, Rutherford, and Collins.
I`ll be receiving the Genesis box set 1970-75 for Xmas. I cannot wait. It`s sad how a grown man digresses into a big baby for the holidays
I`ll go out on a limb here and state that the loss of Steve Hackett was more damaging to the band than Gabriel`s. It was Hackett(my fave guitarist), alongside Banks who was more responsible for the adventurous and exploratory elements within the band. after hackett departed, the songwriting became more streamlined and slick. I may not have enjoyed it that much, but obvioulsy many people did back in the 8o`s, because the band did sell more records.
I`m not knocking all of Genesis`s output in the 80`s. there were some great moments, particularly 'Mama', 'Domino', and 'The Brazillian', which was more down to Tony Banks' capabilties as an arranger and composer. Other than that much of 80`s genesis sounded similiar to material from Collins' solo albums There were many people back in the 80`s that did feel Collins and Genesis were one and the same. Quite wrong.
Tony banks is without a doubt, the finest keyboardist I have ever heard. he never overplayed and always wrote for the song. He was tasteful and restrained, never given to excess histrionic 10 minute keyboard soloing.
And if you will allow me, my top five Genesis albums
1. The lamb Lies down on Broadway(this album deserves it`s own thread. I think I will start one.)
2. A Trick of the Tail
3. Selling england by the Pound
4. Nursey cryme
5. Foxtrot

I'm not sure I'd use the term "damaging" with regards to the loss of Steve Hackett, but I've made the point many times that Hackett's leaving coincides with the most noticable change in Genesis' style and direction - NOT Gabriel's. And I don't think Hackett's leaving forced the change in Genesis' sound - I think it was the other way around. Their change in style was a conscious decision caused by years of critical acclaim and no money to show for it. I think Banks , Rutherford, and Collns were on board with writing shorter, more accessible tunes and Hackett was not. With a couple poppy exceptions I think Trick Of The Tail and Wind & Wuthering sound like just more classic Genesis and I don't miss Gabriel at all. I've always thought that it was Banks and Rutherford that were most responsible for the music - especially Banks.
And I couldn't agree more about Tony Banks playing - always very tasteful. Emerson and Wakeman get more kudos but I don't think either of them had anything on Banks as far as playing ability is concerned and I don't think either of them could hold a candle to Banks as a writer.

 

[Stout]

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Duke was probably the last album I liked totally. Then after that, the albums were a mixed bag for me. Just too many disposeable pop tunes.

 

[Gabble Ratchet]

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Page 3? What's all this about!

Peter Gabriel is currently touring, in support of his album of cover songs, 'Scratch My Back'. It looks to only be in Europe and the U.S though, unless more dates will be announced!

Phil Collins had an operation on his back, and will find out in a year or so if he'll be able to play again, so I'm hoping for the very best!

I'm also going to post a song you may not have heard. It's the B-side from I Know What I Like, Twilight Alehouse:

 

[LG]

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I have that Gabriel album,,,"Scratch My Back", but haven't played it yet.

Didn't realize or forgot about Phil's back problems...hopefully he recovers and can sing if not play the drums anymore.

 

[Aktivator]

Re: Genesis

Page 3? What's all this about!

Peter Gabriel is currently touring, in support of his album of cover songs, 'Scratch My Back'. It looks to only be in Europe and the U.S though, unless more dates will be announced!

Phil Collins had an operation on his back, and will find out in a year or so if he'll be able to play again, so I'm hoping for the very best!

I'm also going to post a song you may not have heard. It's the B-side from I Know What I Like, Twilight Alehouse:

I love Twilight Alehouse shame most people don't know it.

 

[Gabble Ratchet]

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Happy The Man is another fun tune, but I didn't post because the only video has bad audio quality. I especially like these lines:

"Like a nun with a gun - I'm wonderful fun!"

"Seems a very stupid game - But I don't care"

"Like a fool in a pool - I'm incredibly cool"

"With a grin on my chin - I'm certain to win!"