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Mmkay, here's an curious case for your Benjamin Buttons.....How is it that so many longtime Aerosmith fans can lampoon the later songs from the band and yet the closer to "Toys In The Attic", the album that many of longtime Aerosmith fans consider to be their masterpiece, "You See Me Crying" is just gravy? If you ask me it's just as cheesey of a ballad as "Crazy" or "Angel". I for one don't get it. :confused:
 

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Mmkay, here's an curious case for your Benjamin Buttons.....How is it that so many longtime Aerosmith fans can lampoon the later songs from the band and yet the closer to "Toys In The Attic", the album that many of longtime Aerosmith fans consider to be their masterpiece, "You See Me Crying" is just gravy? If you ask me it's just as cheesey of a ballad as "Crazy" or "Angel".
"Angel" though was Velveeta. :D
 

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Mmkay, here's an curious case for your Benjamin Buttons.....How is it that so many longtime Aerosmith fans can lampoon the later songs from the band and yet the closer to "Toys In The Attic", the album that many of longtime Aerosmith fans consider to be their masterpiece, "You See Me Crying" is just gravy? If you ask me it's just as cheesey of a ballad as "Crazy" or "Angel". I for one don't get it. :confused:


I think I can give you somewhat of an answer.


The difference between You See Me Crying, and the ones I mentioned earlier in this thread, is the fact that the MTV generation Aerosmith did those songs with a clear visual image in mind. Those songs were written to be looked at, not listened to.

Don't get me wrong, You See Me Crying is just as sappy as the Don't Wanna Miss A Thing offel. But at least it has a little credibility as being a song to be heard, not seen.

I can't speak for any long time Aerosmith fans other than myself, but having grown up with the original for so many years, it's disappointing to see what they became just to stay in trhe public eye.

It's understandable that 2nd generation fans don't 'get it', when it comes to the 70s Aero fans being less-than-generous with their opinions of the band today.

Those 2nd generation fans don't have the luxury of having been there for the first run. I'd almost venture to say the younger fans think the early Aerosmith isn't as good as the Aerosmith of today.

That's only natural.

Other than the Run DMC collaboration, their first taste was probably the Love In An Elevator MTV stuff, Cryin, Angel, etc. So of course they're going to like that better.



One final note. Ican't speak for anyone but myself, but I don't know a single, hadrcore long time Aerosmith fan that considers Toys In The Attic to be their best album.

That title goes to Rocks. For me, anyhow.
 

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As a long term Aerosmith fan I always reach for GET YOUR WINGS but love me some ROCKS too :grinthumb
 

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I have to agree, Vehicle. The emergence of MTV and video music, music to be seen not heard, has definitely changed the way we compare the 70's to the present. Video music has changed the way almost any band produces and releases their music.........they are always looking for the big hit song and video. In the past, bands had to move listeners with the imagery created via music and lyrics.

I personally admire the fact that Aerosmith has adapted to change over the years. They have re-invented themselves many times to stay lucrative in a vicious POP song oriented music industry. Having a hit single........along with a hit video.......is crucial for big financial success.
 

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Great post from Vehicle.

For me, there is no harm in doing a ballad, a well written ballad is amazing. But when you do a bloody trilogy of them with videos like the Get a Grip Album, write an album of largely pop based ballads that are pure mince [Just Push Play] and when a band so ****ing awesome at writing their own music, records a cover of some mincey pop song and it is there biggest song ever, something is seriously wrong IMO.

Oh and Aerosmith will never top Rocks.
 

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I personally admire the fact that Aerosmith has adapted to change over the years. They have re-invented themselves many times to stay lucrative in a vicious POP song oriented music industry. Having a hit single........along with a hit video.......is crucial for big financial success.

Yes, I've got to begrudgingly give them their due. That 19x platinum status for the those 3 albums is very, very successful. And yes, MTV played quite a part in that success.

The one rub, (I think) is the fact that not only did the MTV generation buy those cds, so did the old school fans.


It's whole different game now. Let me explain:



(Ok, here comes the 'old guy talkin' bout my generation...)


Then

When I was a teen, musicians and bands had an almost mythical status.

They'd release a single to the radio stations first. And the only time you got to hear it was when it was on the radio. Then, the 45 hit the stores, and we finally, finally, finally had their new cut. Played it over and over. And almost as exciting as the single, was the fact that you got a B-side. Another cut!!
Brand new, never been heard anywhere B-side. I mean, that was huge.


Then, they put the album out.

You saved up your 7.00 grass cutting money and got that fresh, new 12 x 12 shiny album. No white ring where the record inside color wears off the color. (not yet anyway) You take off the plastic wrap, and gingerly slide that inside sleeve out. Might be liner notes, photos, even better, lyrics. That was always another bonus.Then, you slide that black vinyl disc out of the inner sleeve. You've been waiting a loooong time for this. There may be a few little static pops.

There it is. Not a scratch on it. 10 songs. Or 8. or 11. Or 9. 30 to 40 minutes of brand new music. It doesn't get any better than that boys and girls.

But wait, yes it does get better.

Then they announce the tour. You got this info by listening to the radio, because that was the only place that gave you that info.

Then you stand in line, literally sleep on the sidewalk waiting for the tickets to go on sale tomorrow at 10:00 am. You're there with the other hardcore fans. You know they're hardcore because they're willing to sleep on the sidewalk, no matter what the weather, get to spend a couple hours with the musicians who are darn near gods to you.

And, if you didn't get a ticket, if they sold out before you got in, that was it. Your one chance to see that band is gone. Just like that. Once in a while you'd get another shot, if they add a second night, or add another show on the swing back around.

But if not, your one chance is gone. You're looking at another couple of years before you get another chance.



Now

Video/single released. Downloaded video/single and the entire cd that same day. See your favorites on your pc as often as you want.

With such easy access and instant gratification, here's no anticipation, no sense of specialness (is that a word?)



Eh, I'd still take Then over Now
 
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