"US rock scene has never recovered from grunge"- Rob Zombie

[Khor1255]

Nope. Depressing was watching bands like Rush develop a love for new wave, Iron Maiden lose it's midnight horror show vibe in favor of quasi operatic cheese mongering, Priest become a one trick pony instead of a dynamic rock and roll band, Accept gain popularity and promptly cheapen their sound, Blizzard of Oz go down in one tragic plane crash etc.
Grunge may have been nihilistic and even borderline whiny at times but it was no where near as depressing as watching a bunch of hack La trannies being called heavy metal while actual metal bands were dropping like flies to commercial cheese.

Rap was gaining on all other genres as soon as it became the thing everyone started mass marketing.

Where metal rose in spite of market concerns (or sometimes in direct conflict with them) rap was polished packaged and bludgeoned into the pop scene by white guilters and idiots of all stripes.
Of course it was going to eventually dominate an already anemic music scene.

 

[metalife]

Kurt Cobain's 'I hate myself and I want to die' attitude wasn't exactly uplifting.

 

[Musikwala]

Grunge was a refreshing change to cheesy hair metal in the 80s! The thing is, every single genre out there gets saturated at some point and devolves into a mess. Hair metal was good in the early and mid 80s. Grunge was good in the early 90s. Even Rap/Hip Hop was great in the late 80s/early 90s!

 

[Soot and Stars]

Kurt Cobain's 'I hate myself and I want to die' attitude wasn't exactly uplifting.

The biggest breath of fresh air when feeling down isn't always to listen to something uplifting. You don't really want to hear people who sound happier than you. Listening to the emotions of someone who relates to a darker part of life or mood is much more cathartic than some happy go lucky tune imo.

 

[Riff Raff]

The biggest breath of fresh air when feeling down isn't always to listen to something uplifting. You don't really want to hear people who sound happier than you. Listening to the emotions of someone who relates to a darker part of life or mood is much more cathartic than some happy go lucky tune imo.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Sometimes the music to relate to is the more darker and melancholic music.

 

[metalife]

Hey, I certainly like moody stuff. I do like Alice In Chains and there's still a few Nirvana and Peral Jam songs I like, but the problem was for a time that's all there was. It took all the fun out of rock n roll. Same thing happened with the 80s metal. Bands like Van Halen, Motley Crue, Poison ARE good musicians. The whole scene is judged by what it became in the late 80s with more and more silly clones of the good bands.

Hope I'm not coming across as a hater or a troll or whatever. Just expressing my views.

 

[metalife]

The thing is, every single genre out there gets saturated at some point and devolves into a mess.

Couldn't agree more mate. The first batch of bands are always the best.

As for hip hop, I can stand rap, however, the rappers from the 80s had way more melody in their work... well, maybe more Vanilla Ice.

Basically, my point is what killed rock n roll in mainstream is that a lot of younger kids (a lot that Ive actually spoken too) judge rock n roll on what it seemed to have become, depressing, angry and violent. And I'm sure we all know that it isn't always like that. But we're educated in music. Young kids just see the 'fun' of hip hop and that in itself is attractive.

 

[Musikwala]

The whole scene is judged by what it became in the late 80s with more and more silly clones of the good bands.

True that!

 

[Soot and Stars]

Hey, I certainly like moody stuff. I do like Alice In Chains and there's still a few Nirvana and Peral Jam songs I like, but the problem was for a time that's all there was. It took all the fun out of rock n roll. Same thing happened with the 80s metal. Bands like Van Halen, Motley Crue, Poison ARE good musicians. The whole scene is judged by what it became in the late 80s with more and more silly clones of the good bands.

Hope I'm not coming across as a hater or a troll or whatever. Just expressing my views.

Not at all! I do think we judge a scene or era too much by what's charting highest. I still found happy music during the grunge years even if it was the scattered one hit wonders and such. Music always has enough variety to suffice even now. We just judge it by whatever the poster child ie. Kurt Cobain was for that era and forget everything else. That's what I love about the modern music scene since the 2,000's. I love that there will never be that one dominant scene or band in rock for quite some time. It'll just be a different set of bands for everybody to like based on personal taste with no one band shoved in my face as the band that represents the era. Being someone who had his peak music years in the prime of grunge I'm so sick of hearing about Kurt Cobain. He wasn't my number one and far from what fully represents those years for me. Then again no one band or genre did.

 

[Musikwala]

Being someone who had his peak music years in the prime of grunge I'm so sick of hearing about Kurt Cobain. He wasn't my number one and far from what fully represents those years for me. Then again no one band or genre did.

Agreed 100%! The 90s was so much more than just grunge or just Cobain.