Pink Floyd (Official Thread)

[Shackles]

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Quite appreciated, thanks. The song I'm really having trouble with is Don't Leave Me Now. The cuts are all over the place! And I won't include Hey You. Here's what I have finished:

Another Brick In The Wall Part 1 (extended the ending to fade into Tigers Part 2)
Happiest Days (mixed in teacher dialogue)
Another Brick In The Wall Part 2 (edited)
Goodbye Blue Sky
Is There Anybody Out There? (May redo it from DVD rip instead of Youtube mp3)
Nobody Home
Vera
Comfortably Numb (need to mix in screams from the film)
Run Like Hell
Waiting For The Worms
The Trial

My sources are the Discovery remaster of The Wall, single releases (got the clean opening of Run Like hell from the single mix), Youtube MP3's (sadly too low quality), and the DVD when it arrives (for better quality and transitions.) Dumb question, does the 2011 version of The Final Cut have When The Tigers Broke Free?

Oh and it'd be wonderful if someone has an MP3 of the Treeful of Secrets bootleg. There's some rare stuff from The Wall on volume 3.

 

[Musikwala]

I can't believe for a minute that Dave, Nick and Rick would have wanted any of that on the album. But by that time Roger had begun to believe it was his band, and what he said was law. Even now when I'm playing it in the car it gets switched off after 'Run Like Hell'

You switch off after Run Like Hell? And miss the lovely Gilmour harmonies on The Show Must Go On? (That is Gilmour, isn't it?)

But it is insane how much Waters dominated the Wall vocally. Sheesh! I think Gilmour sings only on Another Brick..., Comfortably Numb, Goodbye Blue Sky and The Show Must Go On.

 

[Jonny Come Lately]

The Show Must Go On is indeed Gilmour singing, but it's before In The Flesh, yet alone Run Like Hell so you wouldn't miss out on it if you stopped with four tracks to go. You would, however, miss the harmonies on Waiting For The Worms - I can see why the last three songs sound like show songs to an extent, but I wouldn't include Waiting... in this, to me it's much more like the earlier parts of the album in style.

Gilmour sings lead on all of Goodbye Blue Sky, The Show Must Go On and also Young Lust (one of his three co-writes), but doesn't sing lead any of the versions of Another Brick In The Wall. He also sings sections of:
The Thin Ice
Mother
Hey You
Comfortably Numb
Waiting For The Worms

And, at a bit of a push, Run Like Hell (where he sings 'run, run, run' etc).

Although Waters unquestionably dominates the vocals on The Wall, if anything I think that vocally he dominates Animals to a greater extent (where Gilmour only sings lead of half of Dogs), but musically that album is definitely Pink Floyd as Gilmour is very prominent on the three main songs and Sheep in particular would be noticeably inferior without Rick Wright's keyboards. There's also no session musicians on it, whereas quite a lot were used in making The Wall, I think that was necessary though and it did help increase the variety of songs on The Wall, which I consider to be of its main strengths.

Reading about The Wall inspired me to listen to the album in full yesterday. I think it's a fine thing indeed, it has more than its fair share of great tracks (aside from the obvious ones, I rate Goodbye Blue Sky, One Of My Turns, Nobody Home and Waiting For The Worms very highly) but also comes together brilliantly. It's also unusual as it's a double album which would not benefit from being cut to a single as there's too much strong material.

One thing I should add is that I was listening to it on my MP3 player which enabled me to play the album as a loop (go back to the start after it ends) which meant I was able to hear 'Isn't this where we came in?' in full.

 

[Musikwala]

Reading about The Wall inspired me to listen to the album in full yesterday. I think it's a fine thing indeed, it has more than its fair share of great tracks (aside from the obvious ones, I rate Goodbye Blue Sky, One Of My Turns, Nobody Home and Waiting For The Worms very highly) but also comes together brilliantly. It's also unusual as it's a double album which would not benefit from being cut to a single as there's too much strong material.

One thing I should add is that I was listening to it on my MP3 player which enabled me to play the album as a loop (go back to the start after it ends) which meant I was able to hear 'Isn't this where we came in?' in full.

I also quite like Waiting For The Worms a lot! Yeah it is a really strong double album which doesn't have to be cut to a single disc. There are way too many great songs, I agree.

I love that "Isn't this where we came in?" loop! Brilliantly constructed album, this.

 

[LG]

^^My CD of The Wall is two discs same as my vinyl copy...? Is there a single CD version that edited some tracks out on the market?

 

[Musikwala]

I don't know of any single CD version. Jonny and I were simply saying that unlike some other famous double albums which could do with some pruning and condensing to single disc, The Wall doesn't need that... in our opinion.

 

[gguerra]

I've been listening to The Wall again over the past day or so. Man, it still sounds so iconic!... like an epic from 1979. In The Flesh? is probably one of the greatest intros ever on a Floyd album. And something like Goodbye Blue Sky has that perfect mix of happy chords and gloom n' doom in the same song. Don't Leave Me Now sounds like the ultimate pit of despair that Pink finds himself in. Brilliant songwriting!

But this album is also extremely depressing. So I don't give it frequent spins on my player. Waters really controlled and dominated the band to a ridiculous extreme! As a result, I almost never listen to The Final Cut anymore. I think The Final Cut could very well be my least favourite Floyd album. It is also probably the least listened to album in my collection. I don't even remember when I last listened to the Final Cut. I have mixed feelings on Roger Waters. The last 2 Waters-less albums were a welcome relief to me.

I used to think much the same about "The Wall" when it first came out in 1979. It was depressing and still is to a point. It wasn't till I saw the movie that it all fell into place. The film adds the missing context. The Final Cut is really a sequel to The Wall. There is a also a film that accompanies The Final Cut which adds some context as well. Both works are needless to say, heavily thematic and clearly Roger Waters' semi autobiography. I say say "semi" because they are loosely based on his life. The theme and most of the lyrics are Roger's but a lot of the music is Dave's. I wouldn't put The Final Cut on the top of my list but it actually "grew" on me after listening to it multiple times. I am not trying to convince you to like The Final Cut but anyway here is the film. It is apparently not all available on Youtube in it's entirety.

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut FILM (COMPLETE, 1983) - Video Dailymotion

There's no way to embed the video above. I think we can only embed YT video.

 

[Shackles]

^^My CD of The Wall is two discs same as my vinyl copy...? Is there a single CD version that edited some tracks out on the market?

Is that a reply to me? I worded it badly, I used parts of the 1980 single release of Run Like Hell for the clean opening and ending.

 

[LG]

Is that a reply to me? I worded it badly, I used parts of the 1980 single release of Run Like Hell for the clean opening and ending.

^^Yeah I was curious exactly what you were talking about Shackles...I understand now.

 

[recgord27]

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut FILM (COMPLETE, 1983) - Video Dailymotion

Thanks GG for the link. You're right it does pull the music into context. I've always enjoyed the Final Cut as it's not as hard to listen to as The Wall.

For fans of The Wall, there is a large format book on "The Making of Pink Floyd The Wall" which gives behind the scenes insights on how the whole show was created. Very interesting indeed