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ThE OtHeR rAmOnE
I voted yes on this
In a very real way a serious step backwards.
minimalism, meh
Yes, in the short run it was necessary. No, in the long run it didn't really change anything. The internet has changed the industry way more than the punk movement did.
That clinched it for me as well. Punk was a huge influence on those bands and genres forming. I am thankful for that not to mention like you I also dig bands like DK(Jello Biafra days), Pistols, The Clash etc.I think it was a necessary part of the evolution of rock music overall but not for the same reason as given in the poll heading. I have no problem with the so call "excessive" musicianship of bands like Yes, ELP, Deep Purple etc.
but it did bring in a whole new field to explore and expand upon. Which in turn gave people a whole new freedom and space to work as to what can and can not be done ( w/ the can not being all but destroyed) . I like a lot of punk as well. Black Flag, The Exploded, Dead Kennedys, THE MISFITS, Sex Pistols, The Ramones etc. they added a well need raw edge and attitude in the late 70's rock scene, which for the most part was turning into watered down, ** hum, radio rock, and touched a raw nerve of the more uptight members of society...both of which were greatly needed.
Without punk there would have been no Thrash Metal and no Death Metal, w/o both of them there would have been no Black Metal...I know a lot of people here are thinking so what, who cares about those genres away, but I add a big so what, who cares about your opinion.
And BTW, the Clash were no better musicians then most any other punk band of their era .
Even if you hate it, no punk = no post punk,college rock, new wave, rebellious hip hop or grunge = no R.E.M. U2, Black Flag, Pixies, Husker Du, The Replacements, Social Distortion, Nirvana, The Police, Talking Heads, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy or Green Day.
....And the two music extremes would be Phil Collins and Slayer, with only shitty R&B to separate them.
This is the very first time I'm reading from someone saying punk influenced hip-hop. Where the hell did it come from?
Even if you hate it, no punk = no post punk,college rock, new wave, rebellious hip hop or grunge = no R.E.M. U2, Black Flag, Pixies, Husker Du, The Replacements, Social Distortion, Nirvana, The Police, Talking Heads, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy or Green Day.
....And the two music extremes would be Phil Collins and Slayer, with only shitty R&B to separate them.
It's on solid ground my friend: Rick Rubin co-founded the Def Jam label that spawned both the Beastie's and Public Enemy and everything he did was informed via his experiences on the NYC punk scene. That sense of punk rebellion and busting the envelope is all over the early Beastie Boys and Public Enemy sides, if you care to take a listen.
Listen to You're Gonna Get Yours, opening track on Public Enemy's debut and tell me you don't hear it.