Vinyl record sales hit 18-year high

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You said, records have never sounded better to me. Compared to what?

Sorry, didn't figure I'd need to expand on that.

Records have NEVER sounded better than CDs. I'm talking about direct-from-label CDs, not some BS compilation CD that you pick up in a bargain bin from some unknown label that paid 10 cents for the rights to put out some truly awful best-ofs, compilations and mixed-disc releases.

If the production sucks, it sucks. Doesn't matter if it's on CD, cassette, vinyl or DAT. The only change in sound quality comes from the medium. Perfect example, I owned Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl and cassette for many years before I bought it on CD. The very first time I listened to it on CD, I heard things I had NEVER heard before. Little nuances within the sound that never existed in the previous releases on inferior vinyl and cassette.

I know some people have some weird love 'thing' going on with vinyl and seem to think that the pops, crackles and other shit is what makes it so great. That's fine, more power to 'em, but I'd rather listen to a clean recording each and every time and will take a pass on the muffled, "warm" sound that goes along with the pops, cracks and skips of vinyl.


Hope that helped. :)
 

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At the end of the day, it's like anything in music ... personal preference and opinion. My opinion is that I would rather not lose ANYTHING when I make copies or copies of copies. Digital allows that. Analog copies lose quality on each and every generation of that copy. This very simple example is a perfect example of how vinyl (or analog) is inferior. I'd rather not have an inferior product.

To those that like inferior, I'm curious if you listen to your home stereo with only 1 speaker hooked up, or in the car, only listen on one side, or when listening to the radio, only listen to AM stations and when looking for a house, do you buy a house that has terrible insulation and leaks out your heat in the winter and your cool/air-conditioning in the summer, do you buy a car that is both ugly and gets horrible gas milage, do you wash all of your dishes or only some of them because too clean is just too perfect...

I could go on, but I'm sure it will escape some.

Enjoy your wax. I'll keep on keepin' on with my CDs and other digital recordings. :cheers:
 

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Sorry, didn't figure I'd need to expand on that.

Records have NEVER sounded better than CDs. I'm talking about direct-from-label CDs, not some BS compilation CD that you pick up in a bargain bin from some unknown label that paid 10 cents for the rights to put out some truly awful best-ofs, compilations and mixed-disc releases.

If the production sucks, it sucks. Doesn't matter if it's on CD, cassette, vinyl or DAT. The only change in sound quality comes from the medium.
True. A digital 'signal' relies on data sampled by the actual sound wave produced by analog medium. So they are essentially reverse engineering what is already a reliable signal.

Perfect example, I owned Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl and cassette for many years before I bought it on CD. The very first time I listened to it on CD, I heard things I had NEVER heard before. Little nuances within the sound that never existed in the previous releases on inferior vinyl and cassette.
Bwaht?

I know some people have some weird love 'thing' going on with vinyl and seem to think that the pops, crackles and other shit is what makes it so great. That's fine, more power to 'em, but I'd rather listen to a clean recording each and every time and will take a pass on the muffled, "warm" sound that goes along with the pops, cracks and skips of vinyl.


Hope that helped. :)
It's not the pops and cracks that make it an infinitely better medium but rather the fact we can actually hear something that sounds more live than a sampled recording could ever be.

Buy a vowel dude. You are out of your depth here.
 

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I didn't stutter (or skip, or crackle or pop) quite unlike the shitty, inferior medium known as vinyl. Perhaps that is why you missed it.

It's not the pops and cracks that make it an infinitely better medium but rather the fact we can actually hear something that sounds more live than a sampled recording could ever be.
So you hear something that doesn't exist, being this "live" sound? Um ok. Get back to me when you put down the peace pipe.

Buy a vowel dude. You are out of your depth here.
Hey, if you like garbage, that's your business. If you don't get the comments, I understand, anyone caught in the distant past likely would have a tough time keeping up. I'll just leave you to your AM radio and your 57 Trabant. Don't be a square, daddy-o.

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Funny how the only thing you didn't quote relates to the actual sound quality ...kiddie-o

Analog recording captures the entire sound wave while digital recording samples bits along the way. If you can't hear the difference I'm truly sorry for you. Probably explains your musical taste.

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It is quite the opposite to what you tell us Lynch. Cd's are inferior to a true and good vinyl version. Just read the many samples people in diverse sections on the forum gave.

And to me your comments sound as if they are the whole truth. Well they are not. It's just an opinion.
 

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It is quite the opposite to what you tell us Lynch. Cd's are inferior to a true and good vinyl version. Just read the many samples people in diverse sections on the forum gave.

And to me your comments sound as if they are the whole truth. Well they are not. It's just an opinion.

First off, I already said that it's all a matter of opinion, just like your "cds are inferior to a true and good vinyl version". Opinion.

Second: This (quote below) isn't opinion, this is fact:

If the production sucks, it sucks. Doesn't matter if it's on CD, cassette, vinyl or DAT. The only change in sound quality comes from the medium. Perfect example, I owned Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl and cassette for many years before I bought it on CD. The very first time I listened to it on CD, I heard things I had NEVER heard before. Little nuances within the sound that never existed in the previous releases on inferior vinyl and cassette.

I have been telling this story since the 80's when I first bought DSOTM on CD, the story has never changed. The reason the story never changed is because it was a fact that I heard ambiance, sounds and tones I had NEVER heard before on the crummier and previous mediums. I didn't imagine it. At first I thought I had, then I went and listened to both LP and cassette then went back to CD and couldn't believe what I had been missing. The rest is history. It wasn't one-listen-becomes-gospel.... it was a back and forth study. If I simply said that it sounded better, then it's a matter of opinion. The FACT that I heard stuff I had never heard before is just that, a fact. Crisper, clearer ... fact. Enjoyed it more? Opinion. Just like enjoying the dirty, more muffled sound of vinyl is an opinion.
 

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