Top 10 Rock Tragedies
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John Lennon has to be the most tragic...he was assassinated...murdered in cold blood in front of his wife by a maniac.
And I'm not just saying this because Lennon was a Beatle.
This was and is the saddest rock tragedy by far.
And I'm not just saying this because Lennon was a Beatle.
This was and is the saddest rock tragedy by far.
I'm not so much doing it as in how they died. I mean yes in that sense lennon is the most tragic without a doubt. I'm more doing it as in a sense of were they were at in music when the disappeared (Syd Barrett) or Died. Hendrix died at the peak of his career. Sorry if it's a little confusing in that sense. I mean this list more as in sense of what they could of accomplished and contributed to rock had they not died/disappeared due to mental illness. Not saying that didn't already contribute so much. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
Using the same reasoning as you *Manimal, I guess I would agree with Hendrix dying at the pinnacle of his career.
Most tragic circumstances I agree with Groovy, John had come full circle, he had mended his relationship with Paul and was starting to write and record again. I truly believe had he not died they might have got back together for a few Special events/concerts and maybe even recorded another album with the foreknowledge that it was going to be a one of deal. Sadly we'll never know.
I would also add Geroge Harrison to your list, his demise was certainly hurried along by the horrific attack at his home in Hawaii.
Most tragic circumstances I agree with Groovy, John had come full circle, he had mended his relationship with Paul and was starting to write and record again. I truly believe had he not died they might have got back together for a few Special events/concerts and maybe even recorded another album with the foreknowledge that it was going to be a one of deal. Sadly we'll never know.
I would also add Geroge Harrison to your list, his demise was certainly hurried along by the horrific attack at his home in Hawaii.
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#1 for me is Peter Green ~
Fleetwood Mac - Back From Brink, Peter Green Plays
(Dec. 1996) After years of battling schizophrenia brought on by drug use, the former Fleetwood Mac guitarist is beginning a major British tour.
LONDON--We live in the era of the comeback, but few have been more emotional than the return of Peter Green, co-founder of Fleetwood Mac.
Once one of the most feted guitarists in British rock, Green became the ultimate acid casualty and spent time over a period of years in mental hospitals and clinics undergoing electroconvulsive therapy. He gave away much of his money. His wildly unpredictable behavior was splashed across the tabloid press, and he acknowledges that his illness was brought on by hallucinogenic drugs that his delicate mental equilibrium could not handle.
Today, Green is 50 and lives in semirural Surrey in southern England, with caring friends who have helped him inch his way back toward normalcy. His behavior is no longer frightening, although he remains endearingly eccentric. Last summer he began a tentative comeback with a festival appearance in Guildford and a few low-key dates in Germany. Now he is embarking on a major tour of Britain for the first time in nearly two decades.
The first thing you notice on meeting Green is the delicacy of his handshake. "I have to look after my fingers because I'm supposed to play a bit," says the man B.B. King once described as the only white guitarist--Eric Clapton included--who sent shivers up his spine.
Green's modesty is genuine. He complains that promoters insist on billing "the legendary Peter Green" above his band, the Splinter Group, and he looks forward to renewed success so that his name can be dropped. "That's what happened before. It was originally called Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac but when we made it big, my name disappeared."
And they were big. By 1969, after a string of such hits as "Black Magic Woman" and "Man of the World," Fleetwood Mac was voted Britain's best band by readers of the pop music weekly New Musical Express. But by May of the next year, it was not only Green's name that had disappeared. "It was a freedom thing. I wanted to go and live on a commune in Germany. In the end I never did, but I had toget away. Acid had a lot to do with it."
The drugs tipped Green over the edge into what was eventually diagnosed as schizophrenia. He stopped making music, gave his guitars away (many of his most treasured possessions ended up in an Oxfam shop) and went into a steep and rapid decline. He was eventually committed to a hospital, but today he tells the harrowing story dispassionately. "I was throwing things around and smashing things up. I smashed the car wind screen. The police took me to the station and asked me if I wanted to go to the hospital. I said yes because I didn't feel safe going back anywhere else."
What followed was a nightmare. "They gave me tranquilizers, and I didn't really know much about it. It was a struggle just to stay awake. You don't know what you are doing. You don't feel alive."
Michelle Reynolds, in whose house Green now lives, says: "Sometimes he would stand in the garden with me for hours and not say a word. The hospital had him on 17 pills a day.
Green knows that he will never be what most people would describe as completely normal. "I still hear voices in my head," he says. "It is only one voice, a woman I met in the hospital. There were some scary people there, and she is pretty heavy, but I haven't heard her for a bit."
When he made it back from the brink, he started to play the guitar for the first time in years. "It hurt my fingers at first, and I am still relearning," Green says. "What I have discovered is simplicity. Back to basics. I used to worry and make things very complicated. Now I keep it simple."
The next step was a band. Among others,the veteran session drummer Cozy Powell and guitarist Nigel Watson, Reynolds' brother, were enlisted. Now, Green seems to be as contented as a man who has been to hell and back can be. He is affable and clearly enjoys playing again. "It isn't work," he says. "Work and music don't mix. It has to be pleasure or else I can't do it."
The man who once horrified his business managers by giving away much of his fortune says that today he has no idea what he is worth; the royalties are still rolling in, but he leaves others to take care of the finances. "I'm told that I have enough, and I have started collecting guitars," he says. "If I want a new one I can go out and buy it, and if I want to buy a new car I can."
Sadly, he has not yet resumed his songwriting--"I don't feel I have anything I need to say in a song"--and he is also ambivalent about the handful of his classics that the new band performs. "We do 'Albatross,' 'Black Magic Woman' and 'Green Manilishi,' but I only play the rhythm on 'Albatross,' " he says. "I don't want it to be Fleetwood Mac again."
His natural diffidence means that Green finds it hard to cope with being treated as a rock legend. "So far it has been OK, but I haven't really been back long enough to say."
There will be a live album from the new tour, "mostly blues stuff I enjoy doing, things like 'Goin' Down' and a couple of Robert Johnson songs." But Green then resurrects a 1960s chestnut, much debated in student union bars of the time. "White men can't really play the blues," he says adamantly. When pressed, he concedes that Clapton "doesn't do badly" but seems incredulous that his own work should be rated alongside the great black American guitarists.
Finally, given what he has been through,would he turn back the clock? "There would be no point," he says. "I'd only do the same things all over again."
From ~ Schizophrenia.com
Fleetwood Mac - Back From Brink, Peter Green Plays
(Dec. 1996) After years of battling schizophrenia brought on by drug use, the former Fleetwood Mac guitarist is beginning a major British tour.
LONDON--We live in the era of the comeback, but few have been more emotional than the return of Peter Green, co-founder of Fleetwood Mac.
Once one of the most feted guitarists in British rock, Green became the ultimate acid casualty and spent time over a period of years in mental hospitals and clinics undergoing electroconvulsive therapy. He gave away much of his money. His wildly unpredictable behavior was splashed across the tabloid press, and he acknowledges that his illness was brought on by hallucinogenic drugs that his delicate mental equilibrium could not handle.
Today, Green is 50 and lives in semirural Surrey in southern England, with caring friends who have helped him inch his way back toward normalcy. His behavior is no longer frightening, although he remains endearingly eccentric. Last summer he began a tentative comeback with a festival appearance in Guildford and a few low-key dates in Germany. Now he is embarking on a major tour of Britain for the first time in nearly two decades.
The first thing you notice on meeting Green is the delicacy of his handshake. "I have to look after my fingers because I'm supposed to play a bit," says the man B.B. King once described as the only white guitarist--Eric Clapton included--who sent shivers up his spine.
Green's modesty is genuine. He complains that promoters insist on billing "the legendary Peter Green" above his band, the Splinter Group, and he looks forward to renewed success so that his name can be dropped. "That's what happened before. It was originally called Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac but when we made it big, my name disappeared."
And they were big. By 1969, after a string of such hits as "Black Magic Woman" and "Man of the World," Fleetwood Mac was voted Britain's best band by readers of the pop music weekly New Musical Express. But by May of the next year, it was not only Green's name that had disappeared. "It was a freedom thing. I wanted to go and live on a commune in Germany. In the end I never did, but I had toget away. Acid had a lot to do with it."
The drugs tipped Green over the edge into what was eventually diagnosed as schizophrenia. He stopped making music, gave his guitars away (many of his most treasured possessions ended up in an Oxfam shop) and went into a steep and rapid decline. He was eventually committed to a hospital, but today he tells the harrowing story dispassionately. "I was throwing things around and smashing things up. I smashed the car wind screen. The police took me to the station and asked me if I wanted to go to the hospital. I said yes because I didn't feel safe going back anywhere else."
What followed was a nightmare. "They gave me tranquilizers, and I didn't really know much about it. It was a struggle just to stay awake. You don't know what you are doing. You don't feel alive."
Michelle Reynolds, in whose house Green now lives, says: "Sometimes he would stand in the garden with me for hours and not say a word. The hospital had him on 17 pills a day.
Green knows that he will never be what most people would describe as completely normal. "I still hear voices in my head," he says. "It is only one voice, a woman I met in the hospital. There were some scary people there, and she is pretty heavy, but I haven't heard her for a bit."
When he made it back from the brink, he started to play the guitar for the first time in years. "It hurt my fingers at first, and I am still relearning," Green says. "What I have discovered is simplicity. Back to basics. I used to worry and make things very complicated. Now I keep it simple."
The next step was a band. Among others,the veteran session drummer Cozy Powell and guitarist Nigel Watson, Reynolds' brother, were enlisted. Now, Green seems to be as contented as a man who has been to hell and back can be. He is affable and clearly enjoys playing again. "It isn't work," he says. "Work and music don't mix. It has to be pleasure or else I can't do it."
The man who once horrified his business managers by giving away much of his fortune says that today he has no idea what he is worth; the royalties are still rolling in, but he leaves others to take care of the finances. "I'm told that I have enough, and I have started collecting guitars," he says. "If I want a new one I can go out and buy it, and if I want to buy a new car I can."
Sadly, he has not yet resumed his songwriting--"I don't feel I have anything I need to say in a song"--and he is also ambivalent about the handful of his classics that the new band performs. "We do 'Albatross,' 'Black Magic Woman' and 'Green Manilishi,' but I only play the rhythm on 'Albatross,' " he says. "I don't want it to be Fleetwood Mac again."
His natural diffidence means that Green finds it hard to cope with being treated as a rock legend. "So far it has been OK, but I haven't really been back long enough to say."
There will be a live album from the new tour, "mostly blues stuff I enjoy doing, things like 'Goin' Down' and a couple of Robert Johnson songs." But Green then resurrects a 1960s chestnut, much debated in student union bars of the time. "White men can't really play the blues," he says adamantly. When pressed, he concedes that Clapton "doesn't do badly" but seems incredulous that his own work should be rated alongside the great black American guitarists.
Finally, given what he has been through,would he turn back the clock? "There would be no point," he says. "I'd only do the same things all over again."
From ~ Schizophrenia.com
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2. John Lennon's murder (probably a hit contracted by Yoko)
3. Death of John Bonham
4. Death of Stevie Ray Vaughan
5. Death of George Harrison
6. Death of Layne Staley
7. Break up of the Smiths
8. Death of Randy Rhodes
9. Death of Ray Gillen
10. Death of John Denver (not rock, but I liked him).
2. John Lennon's murder (probably a hit contracted by Yoko)
3. Death of John Bonham
4. Death of Stevie Ray Vaughan
5. Death of George Harrison
6. Death of Layne Staley
7. Break up of the Smiths
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01. Bonham's death which ended Led Zeppelin.
02. The beginning of Rap Rock. Someone needs to shoot the inventor!
03. the combined deaths of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J.P. Richardson.
04. the combined deaths of Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gains, Allen Collins
05. Jimi Hendrix
06. Stevie Ray Vaugh
07. Randy Rhoades
08. Duane Allman
09. Layne Staley
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Edit: after more careful thinking, I dropped Jim Morrison off my list and added Jeff Healey...he was such an inspiration for the blind.
02. The beginning of Rap Rock. Someone needs to shoot the inventor!
03. the combined deaths of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J.P. Richardson.
04. the combined deaths of Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gains, Allen Collins
05. Jimi Hendrix
06. Stevie Ray Vaugh
07. Randy Rhoades
08. Duane Allman
09. Layne Staley
10. Jeff Healey
Edit: after more careful thinking, I dropped Jim Morrison off my list and added Jeff Healey...he was such an inspiration for the blind.
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