"This should have been the KISS lineup from the beginning"-Gene Simmons

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GENE SIMMONS: 'This Should Have Been The Lineup Of KISS From The Beginning' - Nov. 11, 2012
In a brand new interview with Revolver magazine KISS members Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons spoke about the making of the band's latest album, "Monster", their second in a row to feature a lineup rounded out by guitarist Tommy Thayer and drummer Eric Singer.

"We're so comfortable now, this should have been KISS always: Tommy, Eric, Paul and myself," Simmons said. "We like each other's company, we like playing onstage with each other. And the creative process is just second skin. We could have just as easily gone into the studio and done another record."

He added later in the interview, "I want to go on record: Eric and Tommy have revitalized the band, made Paul and myself realize what lucky bastards we are to be in KISS and to have each other. And this should have been the lineup of KISS from the beginning."

Asked if they are bothered when people complain about founding KISS members Ace Frehley and Peter Criss not being in the band anymore, Simmons said, "Almost nobody does. When you have 3-year-old and 5-year-old fans showing up to our concerts — or even 30-year-old fans — they don't know about Ace and Peter. I mean, next year is going to be our 40th year. We've been touring longer than most of the people who come see us live have been alive. Who's Ace and Peter? By the way, bless 'em both — what I just said doesn't mean that Ace and Peter weren't every bit as important as Paul and myself in the beginning of the band, but not everybody has the same DNA. Some people shouldn't be in a marathon race. They're just not designed for it. Some people are good for short runs."

"Eric's been in and out of the band for 20-some-odd years. And Tommy, too," added Stanley. "The only people who would complain, I think, are people who don't really follow the band at this point. The myth that sometimes surrounds the original lineup is purely myth. Some of it was of our own doing. The whole projecting the idea that it was four guys giving equally. Quite honestly, it was kind of our take on THE BEATLES: four guys that spend all their time together and run down the street jumping up in the air. But it's not a reality. And maybe part of the problem was that some of the guys in the band really bought into believing it. The band always had two people who were leading it and the idea that anybody is entitled to having songs on an album is crazy."

On the topic of why they think they felt like they had to project those myths in the early days, Stanley said, "Well, l think there was a certain amount of truth to it. Just in the sense of you have a band and there's a certain camaraderie, but there's also a sensitivity factor to people feeling minimized or left out. So to avoid that, we sometimes gave people more than their due. In those days, Gene and I shared our songwriting l with those guys because we didn't ever want it to be an issue that anybody was making more money than the other and therefore wanting songs on the album. Well. it obviously didn't work. [laughs] The only thing l did was give money away. [laughs] But all that being said, I've said it before. I'll say it again — we couldn't be here today without what Ace and Peter did in the beginning, and we couldn't be here today if they were still in the band."

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It seems to me incredibly disrespectful to all the 30 year old fans to say that they don't know about Ace and Peter. I mean, seriously Gene, how stupid can you possibly be if you think that's true? Danny Whitten died almost twenty years before I was born and yet somehow miraculously, utilizing this newfangled thing called the written word (it's only four thousand years old, Gene may not have heard of it) I'm well aware that he provides the angelic rhythm guitar every time I listen to my favorite song, Cowgirl in the Sand. Wait wait wait, but I'm 24 so I must not know he existed.

Reality check, Gene, nobody who buys Monster buys it without already being familiar with Detroit Rock City. Your fans listen to Kiss because of the classic Kiss.
 

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Made me smile reading Gene's comment about the fans at their shows not even knowing about Peter and Ace...:heheh:

They are right though, someone has to be in charge of any group, it either happens by intent or by osmosis. And they did treat everyone like equal partners in the formative years, but with success and being in each other's company more than your own family eventually schisms begin to form and next thing you know, someone leaves by their choice or are kicked out. Then if the band goes on to be "uber successful", and the members left behind are struggling we get the continuous cycle of moaning and complaining as long as someone in the media asks the same question over and over again. Add the internet and Twitter and you have the potential for Peter and Ace to be complaining until they are in a retirement home.:gg:

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Gene's theory might mean a bit more if the two new guys weren't in full Catman and Space Ace regalia. Gene, Paul, Peter and Ace will always be the classic KISS line-up.
 

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^^Maybe Bob D. but I have to think that if it were the other way around, that Ace and Peter kicked out Gene and Paul that KISS would have disappeared eons ago. I tend to look at the metamorphosis of a band the same as an evolutionary progression, survival of the strongest, in this instance Gene and Paul have earned the right to do with KISS whatever they want, and if they are more relaxed now than ever before then I hope they enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts.

I haven't got Monster yet...but I'm sure MP liked it.
 

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Of the two it is usually Simmons spouting derp about the early days but this crap Stanley says about he and Simmons basically writing all the songs and just pretending Ace and Peter had input smells like utter bullshitz.

No one who wasn't there could possibly know for sure but come on, their whole sound changed with Ace's departure (which corresponded with utter commercialism drek). I find it very hard to believe Ace and Peter didn't have a big hand in the early songs.
 

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