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Went to see Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience last night .. it was GREAT! His band sounded awesome and it was a really, really nice tribute to his dad .. 
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Went to see Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience last night .. it was GREAT! His band sounded awesome and it was a really, really nice tribute to his dad ..
Awesome! I'm a little jealous.
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Things You Wish Zeppelin Had Done Differently
1. The Two Slow Blues Songs on Zeppelin I
“I Can’t Quit You Baby” and “You Shook Me”. These songs put the plod in plodding. They bring an otherwise masterful album to a dead-stop. The band comes off as a bunch of goony MIS-interpreters of the blues.
2. Cover Art for Zeppelin II and The Song Remains the Same
Zeppelin II: It seems cool for sentimental reasons as a Zepp fan. But if you weren’t a fan it’d just be an ugly brown mess.
The Song Remains the Same: Seems more like a cold, angular, 80’s album cover. So blah, that it’s not even fun to hate.
3. First Four Album Names
The first four records deserved real names. I’m OK with the self titled first album, but after that the simple numbering system is too mundane for such an interesting band. Although for long time Zepp fans, the numbers have taken on an identifiable essence…but still, kinda lame.
4. Moby Dick
One in a hundred drum solos are worth the time. The opening riff could have made for a barnstorming number, a la Custard Pie. Blame it on the 70’s, but to me Zepp were smarter than the whole hoary drum-solo thing. Moby Dick was stretched to ridiculous lengths in concert. I guess the only redeeming quality is it gave the audience a chance to relieve themselves and score more weed.
5. Sound Production on Zepp II and IV
Zeppelin II sounds muffled and foggy. Like someone threw an old suede coat over the speakers. Zeppelin IV and other songs recorded at Headley Grange sound grainy and tame (excepting what they did with Bono’s drums on Levee).
6. Plant’s Often Vulgar Sexuality
His bulge is a blight on “The Song Remains the Same”. The lifted blues line from “The Lemon Song”: “Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg” is embarrassingly crass. Some of his ill fitting blouses were silly…and some downright hideous.
7. Song Issues
“Black Dog”: The vocals are cool and nasty, but the circular riff and lumbering beat is the audio equivalent of getting a truck load of tar dumped on your head.
“In the Light”: Filler masquerading as something interesting.
“The Song Remains the Same”: I could do without the tacked on vocal track.
“The Rain Song”: Pretty enough when I was a kid. But now as an adult I need to be honest with myself and admit that it’s more than a little boring.
“Hot Dog”: I like the song, but it’s very jarring among the elegant songs here.
8. Song Names
“D’yer Mak’er": Great song, but as an inside joke it’s not even funny from the inside. All it did was make American kids feel stupid trying to say it, and start petty arguments over pronunciation. I swear this band must have been high ALL the time.
“Hats Off to Roy Harper”: He was good…but did they need to name a song after the guy?
“Hots On For Nowhere” what?
“How Many More Times”: sounds like a mother’s scolding
9. Movie Soundtrack
I actually really like the movie, especially the personal segments. Robert Plant riding a white Arabian on the beach at night? HOW THE HELL ISN’T THAT COOL!!! I’m not sure why the movie’s got such a bad name. My only problem is the song selection. (Oh and Jimmy's multi-colored sword is 100% K-mart.)
With all the stellar tracks they had up to that point, I don’t see the need for:
“Celebration Day”, “Moby Dick”, and “The Rain Song”. They could have added 5 rockin’ numbers in place of Dick Rain. Then on the actual soundtrack release, they leave “The Rain Song” on...but remove “Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You”? ? ?
10. Presence
I don’t know how millionaire bands find themselves rushed for time. They hurried this album while holed up in Munich Germany in winter, and came away with 2 great songs, 1 masterpiece, and 4 utterly crap songs. “Hots on for Nowhere”, “Candy Store Rock”, “Royal Orleans”, and “For Your Life” reek of a band spent of ideas. (Thankfully through the input of Jones & Plant, “In Through the Outdoor” proved otherwise.)
11. The Mud Shark Incident
Dumb antics for frat boys. Far beneath men who wrote “Tangerine” and “Ten Years Gone”. Well, that’s what they get for keeping scumbags like Richard Cole around.
12. Page’s Sloppy Playing Live / Robert's Live Voice
Page: What can you say? I can’t explain it. Drugs? Weak, slow fingers?
Plant: He had a strong voice early on. And on albums it was good. I don't know...he's a hard vocalist to figure.
Maybe the poor bootleg recordings make them sound worse. I never saw them live so can’t say. On the positive side, my boots from the 1980 warm up concerts, they both sound better.
13. The Concert Excess after Early 70’s
Between say, ’73 and ’77, the songs could really meander with self-serving solos from everyone in the band except Plant. Luckily with the influence of punk, the concerts for “Out Door” were more Spartan. It would have been a great tour.
14. Page's Live version of "Black Mountainside/White Summer"
I don't understand Page's fixation with this song. He doesn't even have the dexterity to pull it off. He sounds like a toddler with a broken arm. And it goes on forever.
15. (Post Zeppelin)
--I wish they’d never appeared together again, on stage, in studio, anywhere, for ANY reason.
--Robert can rub me wrong at times. In the 1990’s he was always criticizing “Stairway to Heaven”…dick move. Besides it being a great song, he's not the only one who created it. Page and Jones have feelings too. And dissing the release of the remastered CD sets, saying he thinks the records sound fine as is. Stupid.
--The sound of Robert's voice after, say, 1985.
1. The Two Slow Blues Songs on Zeppelin I
“I Can’t Quit You Baby” and “You Shook Me”. These songs put the plod in plodding. They bring an otherwise masterful album to a dead-stop. The band comes off as a bunch of goony MIS-interpreters of the blues.
2. Cover Art for Zeppelin II and The Song Remains the Same
Zeppelin II: It seems cool for sentimental reasons as a Zepp fan. But if you weren’t a fan it’d just be an ugly brown mess.
The Song Remains the Same: Seems more like a cold, angular, 80’s album cover. So blah, that it’s not even fun to hate.
3. First Four Album Names
The first four records deserved real names. I’m OK with the self titled first album, but after that the simple numbering system is too mundane for such an interesting band. Although for long time Zepp fans, the numbers have taken on an identifiable essence…but still, kinda lame.
4. Moby Dick
One in a hundred drum solos are worth the time. The opening riff could have made for a barnstorming number, a la Custard Pie. Blame it on the 70’s, but to me Zepp were smarter than the whole hoary drum-solo thing. Moby Dick was stretched to ridiculous lengths in concert. I guess the only redeeming quality is it gave the audience a chance to relieve themselves and score more weed.
5. Sound Production on Zepp II and IV
Zeppelin II sounds muffled and foggy. Like someone threw an old suede coat over the speakers. Zeppelin IV and other songs recorded at Headley Grange sound grainy and tame (excepting what they did with Bono’s drums on Levee).
6. Plant’s Often Vulgar Sexuality
His bulge is a blight on “The Song Remains the Same”. The lifted blues line from “The Lemon Song”: “Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg” is embarrassingly crass. Some of his ill fitting blouses were silly…and some downright hideous.
7. Song Issues
“Black Dog”: The vocals are cool and nasty, but the circular riff and lumbering beat is the audio equivalent of getting a truck load of tar dumped on your head.
“In the Light”: Filler masquerading as something interesting.
“The Song Remains the Same”: I could do without the tacked on vocal track.
“The Rain Song”: Pretty enough when I was a kid. But now as an adult I need to be honest with myself and admit that it’s more than a little boring.
“Hot Dog”: I like the song, but it’s very jarring among the elegant songs here.
8. Song Names
“D’yer Mak’er": Great song, but as an inside joke it’s not even funny from the inside. All it did was make American kids feel stupid trying to say it, and start petty arguments over pronunciation. I swear this band must have been high ALL the time.
“Hats Off to Roy Harper”: He was good…but did they need to name a song after the guy?
“Hots On For Nowhere” what?
“How Many More Times”: sounds like a mother’s scolding
9. Movie Soundtrack
I actually really like the movie, especially the personal segments. Robert Plant riding a white Arabian on the beach at night? HOW THE HELL ISN’T THAT COOL!!! I’m not sure why the movie’s got such a bad name. My only problem is the song selection. (Oh and Jimmy's multi-colored sword is 100% K-mart.)
With all the stellar tracks they had up to that point, I don’t see the need for:
“Celebration Day”, “Moby Dick”, and “The Rain Song”. They could have added 5 rockin’ numbers in place of Dick Rain. Then on the actual soundtrack release, they leave “The Rain Song” on...but remove “Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You”? ? ?
10. Presence
I don’t know how millionaire bands find themselves rushed for time. They hurried this album while holed up in Munich Germany in winter, and came away with 2 great songs, 1 masterpiece, and 4 utterly crap songs. “Hots on for Nowhere”, “Candy Store Rock”, “Royal Orleans”, and “For Your Life” reek of a band spent of ideas. (Thankfully through the input of Jones & Plant, “In Through the Outdoor” proved otherwise.)
11. The Mud Shark Incident
Dumb antics for frat boys. Far beneath men who wrote “Tangerine” and “Ten Years Gone”. Well, that’s what they get for keeping scumbags like Richard Cole around.
12. Page’s Sloppy Playing Live / Robert's Live Voice
Page: What can you say? I can’t explain it. Drugs? Weak, slow fingers?
Plant: He had a strong voice early on. And on albums it was good. I don't know...he's a hard vocalist to figure.
Maybe the poor bootleg recordings make them sound worse. I never saw them live so can’t say. On the positive side, my boots from the 1980 warm up concerts, they both sound better.
13. The Concert Excess after Early 70’s
Between say, ’73 and ’77, the songs could really meander with self-serving solos from everyone in the band except Plant. Luckily with the influence of punk, the concerts for “Out Door” were more Spartan. It would have been a great tour.
14. Page's Live version of "Black Mountainside/White Summer"
I don't understand Page's fixation with this song. He doesn't even have the dexterity to pull it off. He sounds like a toddler with a broken arm. And it goes on forever.
15. (Post Zeppelin)
--I wish they’d never appeared together again, on stage, in studio, anywhere, for ANY reason.
--Robert can rub me wrong at times. In the 1990’s he was always criticizing “Stairway to Heaven”…dick move. Besides it being a great song, he's not the only one who created it. Page and Jones have feelings too. And dissing the release of the remastered CD sets, saying he thinks the records sound fine as is. Stupid.
--The sound of Robert's voice after, say, 1985.
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Did you write that PN? Very cool!
But the "Mudshark Incident" took place in the late 60's in their very early days when they were opening for Vanilla Fudge. They were early into it then so you can't really blame them.
But the "Mudshark Incident" took place in the late 60's in their very early days when they were opening for Vanilla Fudge. They were early into it then so you can't really blame them.
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The mudshark story was by far the oddest for them 
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There are lots of interesting Zeppelin rumors... like the one where Bonzo supposedly pooped in one of Jimmy's Japanese girlfriends' purses because he didn't like her. They were a rowdy crowd.
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I thought it was shoes???
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I read purse, but I guess we'll have to ask Bonzo personally when we visit him on that great tour bus in the sky. 
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I'm goin' with the shoes.
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I just realized this thread will hit 1000 posts soon. 
