rushzepfanatic
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would be no van halen without led zeppelin.
Led Zeppelin vs Van Halen
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Buckeye Randy
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In my opinion there are some debuts in the modern era of rock music so significant that music is changed forever. Looking from a guitar perspective, the first is Chuck Berry, the second is Jimi Hendrix and the third is Eddie Van Halen with Van Halen. I don't mean this as a slight at Jimmy Page but I don't think Zeps first album is a line that defines how people hear a guitar before and after.
As far as the totality of the albums. Glam metal basically started with Van Halen. Led Zep was the most popular British blues band ever but I wouldn't say that they reinvented British blues.
I don't think you can write a story about rock without including both bands but I think the tree of artists stemming from Eddie's impact is more far reaching.
As far as the totality of the albums. Glam metal basically started with Van Halen. Led Zep was the most popular British blues band ever but I wouldn't say that they reinvented British blues.
I don't think you can write a story about rock without including both bands but I think the tree of artists stemming from Eddie's impact is more far reaching.
Welcome Buckeye Randy.....
If it werent for Beck, Page, and Clapton there might never heve been Eddie Van Halen.
In his own words before he died....."I've always said Eric Clapton was my main influence," he said, "but Jimmy Page was actually more the way I am, in a reckless-abandon kind of way." Speaking at an event at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History in 2015, Van Halen discussed his life and the American Dream.
IMHO the first Zep was far more globally influential than Van Halen (quoted many times in articles) and more bands followed that template over time but many 'glam bands' did get inspiration from Van Halen. I also think Zep wrote far more interesting and better songs and imho Eddie never received the great songs to play he should have.
If Zep didn't 'reinvent' Brit and American blues they certainly transformed it.From an article: ". Rather than merely replicating traditional American acoustic Delta or electric Chicago blues like their peers, Zeppelin amplified it, added heavy rhythm, and infused it with mysticism and hard rock power. "
They are still considered the greatest hard rock band of all time by fans and critics alike.
I always thought Eddie was a great guitar player but never cared for Van Halen's material though they 'sounded good'.
If it werent for Beck, Page, and Clapton there might never heve been Eddie Van Halen.
In his own words before he died....."I've always said Eric Clapton was my main influence," he said, "but Jimmy Page was actually more the way I am, in a reckless-abandon kind of way." Speaking at an event at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History in 2015, Van Halen discussed his life and the American Dream.
IMHO the first Zep was far more globally influential than Van Halen (quoted many times in articles) and more bands followed that template over time but many 'glam bands' did get inspiration from Van Halen. I also think Zep wrote far more interesting and better songs and imho Eddie never received the great songs to play he should have.
If Zep didn't 'reinvent' Brit and American blues they certainly transformed it.From an article: ". Rather than merely replicating traditional American acoustic Delta or electric Chicago blues like their peers, Zeppelin amplified it, added heavy rhythm, and infused it with mysticism and hard rock power. "
They are still considered the greatest hard rock band of all time by fans and critics alike.
I always thought Eddie was a great guitar player but never cared for Van Halen's material though they 'sounded good'.
Buckeye Randy
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^All fair comments. Debut vs. debut, I still go with VH.
If we were going band vs. band, I would vote Led Zep.
If we were going band vs. band, I would vote Led Zep.
I posted a few songs for you in the 'what are you listening to' thread.....
Allan Holdsworth tracks....a fusion/jazz/prog player that Eddie was very impressed by in his later years.
