KISS (Official Thread)
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Lynch
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Lynch
Here for the cookies and the tunes
Lynch
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40 years ago yesterday (02/18/74) KISS' self-titled debut album was released
In my opinion, one of the best debut albums in rock history.
In my opinion, one of the best debut albums in rock history.
Lynch
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This is funny... "New York glitter punk scene"?
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Really good article here. A lot of what is said here echoes my own feelings on the whole RnR induction as well as my thoughts about the snooty/snotty group that runs it.
Also, some nice candid thoughts from Paul on the whole induction as well. There is also some nice editorial concerning the fans that are all pissed off about the original 4 not performing and using other very well known artists who have pretty much told the RnR HOF to **** off because of their BS (and I"m talking about inductees).
LINK ===> MUSIC ON THE MENU with Alan K. Stout
It's a long read, but I think well worth it, whether you are a KISS fan or not.
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Kiss' Paul Stanley Says Ace Frehley 'Threw Away Incredible Potential'
The bitterness between the current and former members who founded Kiss will not be quelled anytime soon. It's been a little over a week since the group announced that it would not perform "in any lineup" at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, following Ace Frehley's comment that he would not perform with current guitarist Tommy Thayer wearing Frehley's sometime makeup. Now, in a new interview with Guitar World, vocalist-guitarist Paul Stanley has derided Frehley's talent.
"What we had at the beginning was magical. . . Ace and I played great together," Stanley said. "But in my mind it's a crime what Ace did: He threw away incredible potential and talent. The Ace I played with when the band first started out was a comet – and not [Frehley's late-Eighties band] 'Frehley's Comet!' But he was burning bright and really had the ability – and this would rub him the wrong way – to be a real contender. But he stopped practicing. He got involved with a whole lot of things that really diluted and diminished his craft. I saw that comet grow dim."
Stanley also said that after Kiss ousted drummer Peter Criss in 1980, he decided the band needed to reinvent itself, and that's why they removed their makeup in 1983. It's a decision he now feels hurt the band. "Rather than saying, 'We've built these iconic figures together and we're going to continue on with what we built,' we bought into the idea of, 'We have to have a new character,'" he said. "That watered it down. Some people may argue with me, but I feel that Batman is Batman whether he's played by George Clooney, Christian Bale, Val Kilmer and on and on."
Kiss' decision not to play with their former members at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is an about face from what bassist-vocalist and founding member Gene Simmons told Rolling Stone in December. At the time, he said he would be willing to play with Frehley and Criss. "It's like, if you introduced me to your wife and I go, 'Wait, where are all the other wives?' It's like, 'Yeah, I was married to them and now I'm here,'" he said. "They were equally important in the formation of the band. When you have kids with your first wife, you give kudos. The fact you got remarried doesn't delete or minimize the importance. Hey, 'You gave birth to this thing, Kiss, with Ace, Peter, Paul and Gene.'"
Kiss' Paul Stanley Says Ace Frehley 'Threw Away Incredible Potential'
The bitterness between the current and former members who founded Kiss will not be quelled anytime soon. It's been a little over a week since the group announced that it would not perform "in any lineup" at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, following Ace Frehley's comment that he would not perform with current guitarist Tommy Thayer wearing Frehley's sometime makeup. Now, in a new interview with Guitar World, vocalist-guitarist Paul Stanley has derided Frehley's talent.
"What we had at the beginning was magical. . . Ace and I played great together," Stanley said. "But in my mind it's a crime what Ace did: He threw away incredible potential and talent. The Ace I played with when the band first started out was a comet – and not [Frehley's late-Eighties band] 'Frehley's Comet!' But he was burning bright and really had the ability – and this would rub him the wrong way – to be a real contender. But he stopped practicing. He got involved with a whole lot of things that really diluted and diminished his craft. I saw that comet grow dim."
Stanley also said that after Kiss ousted drummer Peter Criss in 1980, he decided the band needed to reinvent itself, and that's why they removed their makeup in 1983. It's a decision he now feels hurt the band. "Rather than saying, 'We've built these iconic figures together and we're going to continue on with what we built,' we bought into the idea of, 'We have to have a new character,'" he said. "That watered it down. Some people may argue with me, but I feel that Batman is Batman whether he's played by George Clooney, Christian Bale, Val Kilmer and on and on."
Kiss' decision not to play with their former members at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is an about face from what bassist-vocalist and founding member Gene Simmons told Rolling Stone in December. At the time, he said he would be willing to play with Frehley and Criss. "It's like, if you introduced me to your wife and I go, 'Wait, where are all the other wives?' It's like, 'Yeah, I was married to them and now I'm here,'" he said. "They were equally important in the formation of the band. When you have kids with your first wife, you give kudos. The fact you got remarried doesn't delete or minimize the importance. Hey, 'You gave birth to this thing, Kiss, with Ace, Peter, Paul and Gene.'"
