Frank Zappa (Official Thread)

[Hepcat]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated

"Mothermania" is the earliest compilation album for the Mothers of Invention:

1. Brown Shoes Don't Make It
2. Mother People
3. Duke of Prunes
4. Call Any Vegetable
5. The Idiot Bastard Son

6. It Can't Happen Here
7. You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here
8. Who Are The Brain Police?
9. Plastic People
10 Hungry Freaks, Daddy
11. America Drinks and Goes Home

But the best compilation for the Mothers of Invention is this one:

The **** of the Mothers

1. Status Back Baby
2. Wowie Zowie
3. You Didn't Try to Call Me
4. Invocation & Ritual Dance of the Young Pumpkin
5. Soft-Sell Conclusions

6. Bow-Tie Daddy
7. Uncle Bernie's Farm
8. Concentration Moon
9. Go Cry on Somebody Else's Shoulder
10. Flower Punk
11. Motherly Love

This later "Worst of the Mothers" is very similar but contains less tracks!

1. Help, I'm a Rock (2:41)
2. Anyway the Wind Blows (2:52)
3. Flower Punk (3:03)
4. You Didn't Try to Call Me (3:17)
5. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance (1:34)

6. Motherly Love (2:45)
7. Mom & Dad (2:16)
8. Mother People (2:34)
9. Wowie Zowie (2:51)
10. Status Back Baby (2:58)

 

[Flower]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated

Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance ...

 

[Drifter]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated

I'm a latecomer to Zappa. His *****-mouthed humor used to put me off from listening to his music but that all changed after I heard Freak Out for the first time. Now I'm slowly building up a Zappa collection. Better late then never, as they say.

 

[Foxhound]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated

Frank Zappa wasn't just a creative musician. He was capable in many ways. Here's his testimony on 19 September 1985 before a Congressional Committee called to listen to submissions in response to demands by a hysterical mothers' organization formed by Tipper Gore and Susan Baker calling itself the Parents Music Resource Center:

"The first thing I would like to do, because I know there is some foreign press involved here and they might not understand what the issue is about, one of the things the issue is about is the First Amendment to the Constitution, and it's short and I'd like to read it so they will understand. It says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That's for reference.

These are my personal observations and opinions. I speak on behalf of no group or professional organization.

The PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal's design.

It is my understanding that in law First Amendment issues are decided with a preference for the least restrictive alternative. In this context, the PMRC demands are the equivalent of treating dandruff by decapitation.

No one has forced Mrs. Baker or Mrs. Gore to bring Prince or Sheena Easton into their homes. Thanks to the Constitution, they are free to buy other forms of music for their children. Apparently, they insist on purchasing the works of contemporary recording artists in order to support a personal illusion of aerobic sophistication. Ladies, please be advised: The $8.98 purchase price does not entitle you to a kiss on the foot from the composer or performer in exchange for a spin on the family Victrola.

Taken as a whole, the complete list of PMRC demands reads like an instruction manual for some sinister kind of toilet training program to house-break all composers and performers because of the lyrics of a few. Ladies, how dare you?

The ladies' shame must be shared by the bosses at the major labels who, through the RIAA, chose to bargain away the rights of composers, performers, and retailers in order to pass H.R. 2911, The Blank Tape Tax, a private tax levied by an industry on consumers for the benefit of a select group within that industry.

Is this a consumer issue? You bet it is. The major record labels need to have H.R. 2911 whiz through a few committees before anybody smells a rat. One of them is chaired by Senator Thurmond. Is it a coincidence that Mrs. Thurmond is affiliated with the PMRC?

I can't say she is a member, because the PMRC has no members. Their secretary told me on the phone last Friday that the PMRC has no members, only founders. I asked how many other D.C. wives are nonmembers of an organization that raises money by mail, has a tax-exempt status, and seems intent on running the Constitution of the United States through the family paper-shredder. I asked her if it was a cult. Finally, she said she couldn't give me an answer and that she had to call their lawyer.

While the wife of the Secretary of the Treasury recites "Gonna drive my love inside you" and Senator Gore's wife talks about "bondage" and "oral sex at gunpoint" on the CBS Evening News, people in high places work on a tax bill that is so ridiculous, the only way to sneak it through is to keep the public's mind on something else: Porn rock.

Is the basic issue morality? Is it mental health? Is it an issue at all? The PMRC has created a lot of confusion with improper comparisons between song lyrics, videos, record packaging, radio broadcasting, and live performances. These are all different mediums and the people who work in them have the right to conduct their business without trade-restraining legislation, whipped up like an instant pudding by "The wives of Big Brother."

Is it proper that the husband of a PMRC nonmember / founder / person sits on any committee considering business pertaining to the blank tape tax or his wife's lobbying organization? Can any committee thus constituted find facts in a fair and unbiased manner? This committee has three that we know about: Senator Danforth, Senator Packwood, and Senator Gore. For some reason, they seem to feel there is no conflict of interest involved.

Children in the vulnerable age bracket have a natural love for music. If as a parent you believe they should be exposed to something more uplifting than "Sugar Walls," support music appreciation programs in schools. Why haven't you considered your child's need for consumer information? Music appreciation costs very little compared to sports expenditures. Your children have a right to know that something besides pop music exists.

It is unfortunate that the PMRC would rather dispense governmentally sanitized heavy metal music than something more uplifting. Is this an indication of PMRC's personal taste or just another manifestation of the low priority this administration has placed on education for the arts in America?

The answer, of course, is neither. You can't distract people from thinking about an unfair tax by talking about music appreciation. For that you need sex, and lots of it.

The establishment of a rating system, voluntary or otherwise, opens the door to an endless parade of moral quality control programs based on things certain Christians don't like. What if the next bunch of Washington wives demands a large yellow "J" on all material written or performed by ****, in order to save helpless children from exposure to concealed Zionist doctrine?

Record ratings are frequently compared to film ratings. Apart from the quantitative difference, there is another that is more important: People who act in films are hired to pretend. No matter how the film is rated, it won't hurt them personally.

Since many musicians write and perform their own material and stand by it as their art, whether you like it or not, an imposed rating will stigmatize them as individuals. How long before composers and performers are told to wear a festive little PMRC arm band with their scarlet letter on it?

Bad facts make bad law, and people who write bad laws are in my opinion more dangerous than songwriters who celebrate sexuality. Freedom of speech, freedom of religious thought, and the right to due process for composers, performers and retailers are imperiled if the PMRC and the major labels consummate this nasty bargain.

Are we expected to give up article 1 so the big guys can collect an extra dollar on every blank tape and 10 to 25 percent on tape recorders? What's going on here? Do we get to vote on this tax?

I think that this whole matter has gotten completely blown out of proportion, and I agree with Senator Exon that there is a very dubious reason for having this event. And I also agree with Senator Exon that you shouldn't be wasting time on stuff like this, because from the beginning I have sensed that it is somebody's hobby project.

Now, I've done a number of interviews on television. People keep saying, can't you take a few steps in their direction, can't you sympathize, can't you empathize? I do more than that at this point. I have got an idea for a way to stop all this stuff and a way to give parents what they really want, which is information, accurate information as to what is inside the album, without providing a stigma for the musicians who have played on the album or the people who sing it or the people who wrote it. And I think that if you listen carefully to this idea that it might just get by all of the constitutional problems and everything else as far as I am concerned.

I have no objection to having all of the lyrics placed on the album routinely, all the time. But there is a little problem. Record companies do not own the right automatically to take these lyrics, because they are owned by publishing companies.

So, just as all the rest of the PMRC proposals would cost money, this would cost money too, because the record companies would need -- they shouldn't be forced to bear the cost, the extra expenditure to the publisher, to print those lyrics.

If you consider that the public needs to be warned about the contents of the records, what better way than to let them see exactly what the songs say? That way you do not have to put any kind of subjective rating on the record. You do not have to call it R, X, D/A, anything. You can read it for yourself.

But in order for it to work properly, the lyrics should be on a uniform kind of a sheet. Maybe even the Government could print those sheets. Maybe it should even be paid for by the Government, if the Government is interested in making sure that people have consumer information in this regard.

And you also have to realize that if a person buys the record and takes it out of the store, once it is out of the store you can't return it if you read the lyrics at home and decide that little Johnny is not supposed to have it.

I think that that should at least be considered, and the idea of imposing these ratings on live concerts, on the albums, asking record companies to reevaluate or drop or violate contracts that they already have with artists should be thrown out. That's it all. That's all I have to say."

I can really admire a fellow who can absolutely devastate his opponents' position with carefully chosen and delivered words.

 

[Velvetclown]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated

 

[Jasonconfused]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated (Official Thread)

So i'm fairly new to Frank Zappa and so far I have Freak Out, We're Only In it For the Money, Apostrophe, Hot Rats, Zoot Allures, and Over-Nite Sensation.

What essential Frank Zappa albums am I missing?

 

[DaKillerWolf]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated (Official Thread)

So i'm fairly new to Frank Zappa and so far I have Freak Out, We're Only In it For the Money, Apostrophe, Hot Rats, Zoot Allures, and Over-Nite Sensation.

What essential Frank Zappa albums am I missing?

Definitely get One Size Fits All.

 

[electric funeral]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated (Official Thread)

Definitely listen to:

Hot Rats
Zappa in New York - brilliant!!
The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life

 

[Cosmic Harmony]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated (Official Thread)

Definitely listen to:

Hot Rats
Zappa in New York - brilliant!!
The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life

A damn fine live album from later in Frank's career. The covers in particular are really cool.


I only have two words for you though Jasonconfused.....JOE'S-GARAGE.

 

[terry ells]

Re: Frank Zappa ~ Appreciated (Official Thread)