Bill Ward Threatens to Leave Black Sabbath Reunion

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Dear Sabbath Fans, Fellow Musicians and Interested Parties,
At this time, I would love nothing more than to be able to proceed with the Black Sabbath album and tour. However, I am unable to continue unless a “signable” contract is drawn up; a contract that reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band.

Last year, I worked diligently in good faith with Tony, Ozzy and Geezer. And on 11/11/11, again in good faith, I participated in the L.A. press conference. Several days ago, after nearly a year of trying to negotiate, another “unsignable” contract was handed to me.

Let me say that although this has put me in some kind of holding pattern, I am packed and ready to leave the U.S. for England. More importantly, I definitely want to play on the album, and I definitely want to tour with Black Sabbath.

Since the news of Tony’s illness, and the understanding that the band would move production to the U.K., I’ve spent everyday getting to or living in a place of readiness to leave. That involves something of a task, and as I’ve tried to find out what’s going on with the U.K. sessions, I’ve realized that I’ve been getting “the cold shoulder” (and, I might add, not for the first time). Feeling somewhat ostracized, my guess is as of today, I will know nothing of what’s happening unless I sign “the unsignable contract.”

The place I’m in feels lousy and lonely because as much as I want to play and participate, I also have to stand for something and not sign on. If I sign as-is, I stand to lose my rights, dignity and respectability as a rock musician. I believe in freedom and freedom of speech. I grew up in a hard rock/metal band. We stood for something then, and we played from the heart with honesty and sincerity. I am in the spirit of integrity, far from the corporate malady, I am real and honest, fair and compassionate.

If I’m replaced, I have to face you, the beloved Sabbath fans. I hope you will not hold me responsible for the failure of an original Black Sabbath lineup as promoted. Without fault finding, I want to assure everyone that my loyalty to Sabbath is intact.
So here I am. I lay my truth down before you. I’m good to go IF I get a “signable” contract. I don’t want to let anyone down, especially Black Sabbath and all the Sabbath fans. You know I love you. It would be a sad day in Rock if this current situation fell to the desires of a few.

My position is not greed-driven. I’m not holding out for a “big piece” of the action (money) like some kind of blackmail deal. I’d like something that recognizes and is reflective of my contributions to the band, including the reunions that started fourteen years ago. After the last tour I vowed to never again sign on to an unreasonable contract. I want a contract that shows some respect to me and my family, a contract that will honor all that I’ve brought to Black Sabbath since its beginning.

That’s the story so far.
Stay safe and stay strong.
I love every single one of you.
–Bill Ward


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Bill Ward is a dick, a cry baby who goes home if he doesn't get his way.

He dropped out of the Heaven And Hell project too.
 

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I still say this is their last shot though. Pay the guy and let's get this done!

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I have no idea what terms are being offered to Bill so it would be highly unreasonable for me to pretend that I do know that he is getting a fair deal and judge him accordingly. Having said that I hope this doesn't fall through. There is obviously a lot of money to be made on this reunion. Give Bill a reasonable share and lets get on with it.
 

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OMG. Sounds like he needs to visit an agony-aunt rather than go on tour, why would he make a public statement like that, even if there's some truth in it, it just makes the rest of the band and their management look bad, things like that should be dealt with privately, then if you decide to walk and not participate, that's the time to make a statement. Basically for it to have an ounce of credibility as a reunion then all 4 original members have to participate, otherwise it's just yet another coming-out-of-retirement-over-the-hill-supergroup Mk IV - so they will have to give him whatever he wants at the end of the day, though no matter how they dress it up, this to me will still look like Ozzy Osbourne (world mega-media celebrity superstar) and his backing band (3 guys who 99% of the english speaking world never heard of)
 

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I've always considered "respect" when it comes to contract/negotiations in the modern age to = money.

If they are paying him like a studio/touring musician instead of a full fledged member of Sabbath then I agree with his stand.

This will be their last go round, so drop the crap everyone split everything 4 ways and get on with it.

And I agree with MP, I get the feeling Sharon is somewhere in the mix of all this.:nw:
 

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I think Sharon manipulates everything in Ozzy's life, let's face it he's been so over-medicated down the years, and lost so much grey-matter, that he comes across like somebody with brain damage, and she probably does everything for him. I really love the guy and all that he stands for, but he's probably going to be back in diapers before he hits 70.
 

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