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  1. Old Dude

    Indie Rock Education!

    "Indy Rock" is a marketing term invented by the suits who've done their best to destroy creativity while maximizing the profits they extract from the artists who actually create music. The suits use the term to describe music as a product to sell, like so much laundry detergent.
  2. Old Dude

    Rock 'n' roll singers DON'T get better with age.

    It seems to me that the key to the discussion is what makes any singer "good". There are singers who can hit the notes, but who inject no life, no spirit, into what they sing. There are singers who, in their prime, used their larynx's like it was a Les Paul through a Marshall stack with a...
  3. Old Dude

    Indie Rock Education!

    I see. It's a belief, like some sort of religious dogma. Did you ever consider that for people to communicate with each other, it is helpful to have a common, shared understanding of what words mean. Does everyone get to invent their own definitions of any and all words? I think I used this...
  4. Old Dude

    Indie Rock Education!

    The thing is, in common parlance, a "genre" of music is not quite the same thing as a type of music. In the context we're discussing here, a waltz sung with a Southern accent, and with a pedal steel guitar accompaniment would be a waltz in the country genre. That same waltz, played only on...
  5. Old Dude

    Indie Rock Education!

    No, and yes. Just because something is a cliche doesn't mean it's crap. It just means it's no longer new or innovative. A blues lead on a pentatonic scale is a cliche. But it can be sublime, or it can be ridiculous. Any 12 bar blues is a cliche, but it can also be something incredibly moving, or...
  6. Old Dude

    Indie Rock Education!

    Good Lord, the generalities and stereotypes truly abound, don't they? This quote has been attributed to a great many people. I don't know who really said it first, but it's true. "95% of everything is crap." Truer words were never spoken. Throughout the history of written or recorded music...
  7. Old Dude

    Tell us about your stereo!

    I mostly listen to music in my car. I don't have much spare money to invest in sound gear, but I do use this a lot. I don't need one in my wife's Hyundai, as it as a port for a USB thumb drive in the car stereo. My old Kia Sedona doesn't, so I use this. I plugs into the spare 12 volt outlet...
  8. Old Dude

    Indie Rock Education!

    Overgenrefication is the curse of the music industry. But vague generalities as defining factors is almost as bad. Terms like "mainstream" are so vague that they're pretty much useless. Almost all musical trends begin as innovation, progress to common, and end up mainstream cliches.
  9. Old Dude

    Indie Rock Education!

    I'll drag this old thread up because of the final question. If what makes a band "Indy" is that they are unsigned, what happens when they get signed? Do they have to surrender their Indy license? Is there a ceremony where they are kicked out of The Indy genre? If their label fires them, what...
  10. Old Dude

    Guitar players?

    I've been playing guitar on and off for over half a century. I've been through bands and did the troubadour thing for a while. Might start doing that again. My gear at the moment is: Epiphone Dot Studio, my main 6 string Dean Boca electric 12 string, a great jangle-machine, and the preferred...
  11. Old Dude

    Albums Of The 60's Add List (50)

    1. Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys 2. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin 3. Their Satanic Majesties Request - The Rolling Stones 4. The Book of Taliesyn - Deep Purple 5. The Doors - The Doors 6. S.F Sorrow - Pretty Things 7. West Side Story Soundtrack 8. Forever Changes - Love 9. Velvet Underground And...
  12. Old Dude

    I've stumbled in

    I started out on larynx, and learned guitar to back myself. Then I added bass because someone told me it would help me get girls. (They lied!) I got a 12 string, so now I play 4, 6, and 12. I tried the tambourine, but the guys in my band first removed the head, then the jangles. I tried...
  13. Old Dude

    I've stumbled in

    While looking for something else, I found this forum. I am now, and have been for many decades, a fan of classic rock. "Classic" rock is, to me, a sound and not an era. People didn't stop creating new classic rock because of the turn of the page of a calendar, or because suits in the music or...
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