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  1. Old Dude

    Covers, uncovers, remakes, etc.

    That's the only version I've heard that wasn't an almost exact copy of the original.
  2. Old Dude

    Covers, uncovers, remakes, etc.

    I admit to liking cheesy ballads. This is one such song. It's also a really bad video. A Europop cover. Images are from a movie the woman starred in. Another cover. Lana Del Rey has a distinctive voice. To the best of my knowledge, this song is only done live in concert.
  3. Old Dude

    What Did You Listen To In The 80's?

    So do I. But, to know what I like, I first have to hear it at least once to make a decision on whether I like it or not. If I've never had an opportunity to hear something for the first time, how would I possibly know if I liked it or not? How would you know if you liked something if you never...
  4. Old Dude

    What Did You Listen To In The 80's?

    I listened to whatever they played on "Classic Rock" radio stations. I also listened to whatever videos were on MTV, back when MTV meant "Music television" and they mostly played music videos. There was a lot of good music in the 80's, but none of it was on the radio or MTV, so I didn't learn...
  5. Old Dude

    Gibson files for bankruptcy

    I've played several Gibson ES-335 models at various guitar stores. That's my personal favorite go-to guitar. All were very nice, but none were worth between five and ten times as much as my Epiphone ES-335 clone. I can buy a brand new Epiphone Dot for $449.00 from Sweetwater. A comparable Gibson...
  6. Old Dude

    Gibson files for bankruptcy

    I play an Epiphone copy of a Gibson ES-335. At Musician's Friend mail-order company, prices for those start at $380. You can pay more for fancier looking models, but they all play and sound pretty much the same, which is excellent. The cheapest Gibson ES-335 starts at $2,900! Gibson offers the...
  7. Old Dude

    Bob Weir on the state of the music industry

    He's another one who is full of sheep dip. Several generations of people grew up only hearing music on AM radio. Starting with the first broadcasts in 1920, AM was all there was. Recordings were on 78 RPM wax records, though recording and playback speeds were very inexact. FM started just before...
  8. Old Dude

    Bob Weir on the state of the music industry

    The thing is, how good or bad a recording sounds is affected by more than compression. Whatever the sound source is, the quality of all the playback gear, including amps, speakers, cables, speaker housings, placement of the speakers, the acoustics of the room, the EQ settings of everything that...
  9. Old Dude

    favorite song from the 60s

    I looked up this song when I was listing a bunch of different versions in this thread https://www.classicrockforums.com/threads/covers-uncovers-remakes-etc.37707/. It has along and confusing (and confused) history. Every garage band in the 1960's included it in their set lists. It was second...
  10. Old Dude

    favorite song from the 60s

    One of the best garage bands of the era.
  11. Old Dude

    Covers, uncovers, remakes, etc.

    Actually, one of the points of starting this thread was to point out how many really excellent songs were, in fact, covers of original versions that weren't all that good. None of the three prior versions of "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" were as good as Led Zeppelin's cover. Jackie DeShannon's...
  12. Old Dude

    Covers, uncovers, remakes, etc.

    Original Professional cover, by the Queens of the Squashed Bosoms (AKA "Celtic Woman") A similar cover by the male version of Celtic Woman. A cover by some old dude, who is wearing a stupid looking hat.
  13. Old Dude

    DEE SNIDER solo album due July 27

    Some of the best metal acts in the world, especially in Europe, are on Napalm.
  14. Old Dude

    Lindsey Buckingham Leaves Fleetwood Mac, Mike Campbell Joins the Group

    That's true. If you're only going to make pronouncements from on high as if you were an infallible oracle, and cannot present any sort of reasons why you have the opinion you have, then there is no point in continuing. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if it is just a big pile of...
  15. Old Dude

    Lindsey Buckingham Leaves Fleetwood Mac, Mike Campbell Joins the Group

    I suggest you look into the phrase, "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc". It describes one of the most common logical fallacies. You've just demonstrated it. A very strong case could be made that rather then Buckingham's first departure causing the band's slump, it could be that Buckingham realized...
  16. Old Dude

    favorite song from the 60s

    This is the first hit recording of the song. It was a manufactured hit from the Brill Building, written by Gerry Goffin and Carole King. Carol King did the original demo version. It was also covered by the Beatles and Dion and the Belmonts. I had to look up Smokie. They're a Brit pop...
  17. Old Dude

    Lindsey Buckingham Leaves Fleetwood Mac, Mike Campbell Joins the Group

    He has money coming out the wazoo. He has a life outside of Fleetwood Mac. He spent a lot of years between his times in Fleetwood Mac. If he wants to tour, he'll have no trouble hiring sidemen. If he wants to record, he'll have no trouble getting session players. Hogwash. They made albums...
  18. Old Dude

    Lindsey Buckingham Leaves Fleetwood Mac, Mike Campbell Joins the Group

    Fleetwood Mac was Fleetwood Mac for YEARS before Lindsey Buckingham joined. He quit for nine years before returning, and they were still Fleetwood Mac. They were Fleetwood Mac when their guitarists were Jeremy Spencer, Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, Bob Welch, Billy Burnette, and Dave Mason. Face...
  19. Old Dude

    Show us your axe

    I had a chance to play a double neck Epiphone. It wasn't as great as I thought it would be. For one thing, tuning is a bitch. There's no clearance between the tuners between the two necks. It would come in handy if you're playing some big, over-the-top production number like Stairway to Heaven...
  20. Old Dude

    Is this considered Punk Rock?

    Perhaps you should simply work on creating a sound you like, making the best music you can make, and don't waste time and energy on useless pursuits like pigeonholing yourselves into some stupid category. Being locked into categories is what the suits do to bands, and it's not a good thing. When...
  21. Old Dude

    CDs, vinyl are outselling digital downloads for the first time since 2011

    I'll take your word for it. I don't have a gazillion dollar sound system in an acoustically treated listening room to do my own side-by-side comparison. If you'd like to buy me one as a gift, I wouldn't turn it down.
  22. Old Dude

    CDs, vinyl are outselling digital downloads for the first time since 2011

    Please note, it's not that I "don't care" about audio quality. I do care. But only to a point. The difference between really bad sound and reasonably good sound quality is significant. The difference between reasonably good quality and outstanding quality isn't all that big a difference. More...
  23. Old Dude

    ARE VINYL RECORDS REALLY BAD for the environment?

    Everything is bad for the environment.
  24. Old Dude

    Favorite 50's Singer.

    Singers who were among my favorites back in the 1950's (which isn't the same as my favorite 50's singers looking back from today), Gordon MacRae, Howard Keel, John Raitt, Larry Verne, Sheb Wolley, Doris Day, and Frank Sinatra. Looking back at the 50's, those change to the usual batch of early...
  25. Old Dude

    CDs, vinyl are outselling digital downloads for the first time since 2011

    I have had the opportunity to hear recorded sound on incredibly great sound systems. There is a difference between audio sources when you're listening on an outstanding sound system. I do not own an outstanding sound system. Most of my listening is on medium grade headphones or in my car. On...

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