Limewire shuts down permanently

OptimisticFutureBlues

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Money for Nothing. Seriously. People are paying out money, for actually nothing. An mp3 isn't anything. Its not worth 1.29 at least. Its a complete rip off. I'd have paid about 5000 dollars for all the songs I CURRENTLY have on my iPod. Then picture all the songs I deleted because I got sick of them. I am NOT going to pay for nothing just because Gene Simmons thinks I'm richer than him, somehow.

Your on the right track man. Never delete purchased music, always back it up on a cd or something. There will come a day when you will want to hear it again. I actually agree with you, the MP3 is an endlessly copyable piece of song. The internet is a head hurter, I'm going to go rest it for awhile.
 

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Thats like someone inventing a machine that can create endless copies of food items, but charging people each time for financial gain. Music is a beautiful thing, that doesn't need to be rewarded with tons of cash. being able to live comfortably and have people who enjoy your music should be more than what they expected. do they really need to be filthy rich?
 

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Pay for free music? Whats the fun in that?

I never had much luck with P2P services like Limewire. I like different types of music other than classic rock and it is difficult to find those on free sites. I tried IMesh out and I found a ton of music there that I couldn't even find on Rhapsody and certainly not on free sites. I enjoy bluegrass music and it's hard to find for free. Plus I like the built-in player there with the equalizer.
 

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TB you can take any vinyl record and record it to cassette, just like we all did back a few years ago.

Do you all see the symmetry? Cassettes were heralded as the next greatest format, the recording industry went into panic mode, "The Sky is falling, no one is going to buy music anymore, they will just pool their money and buy one record and make illegal copies!"...:wa:

Bollocks and Rubbish! We all ended up paying a big levy on all blank tape that goes to the media companies, the same as the $20.00 on a 50 pack of CD-R's you buy, they are assuming you are going to burn something illegal regardless of whether or not that is your intention, that is ridiculous as well.

It has all happened before, we did with our primitive analog equiment in a couple of hours what takes the digital generation a couple of minutes.

As for the quality of i-tunes or any lossy codec out there...I can tell the difference on my reference system. If a recording is well done then it sounds great, if it's lacking in any respect then that shows up instantly.

Bose wave radios, i-pod sound docks, i-pods with ear buds, none of them can touch a quality stereo/surround system to put you in the front row of a concert or the recording studio with the band you are listening to.

I would accept a rollback to vinyl and make it illegal to possess any digital format whatsoever if that is what it took to keep musicians creating and releasing music. But they are always going to do that whether they make millions of dollars or a comfortable living like the rest of us.
 

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Exactly, LG. The industry is setting people up. A game of cat and mouse.

"we make the Ipod and MP3 players, we allow the blank discs, hell we even allow coders to write programs to transfer music to their PC for their Ipods, and then we sue the shit out of people who download"


BUT ............... if you download a lossy file and pay for it through I-tunes you're good to go.


This makes no sense...............Illogical.
 

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^^Yeppers let's use Sony Corp as our example.

They have bought many record labels lock stock and barrel years ago, BMG and Columbia and all their subsidiaries. So they have a huge library of great music and movies in their possession.

They also make, CD/DVD burners for your computer or a stand alone version like their old mini-disc system that went extinct because they wouldn't share the technology with other companies.

They also make blank CD-R's/DVD's for you to record whatever content you want on them.

50 Blank CD's cost roughly $50.00 here, and out of that $20.00 is a levy that goes back to the media companies, Sony being one of them. It is entirely possible that the cost of manufacturing the CD's is paid for completely by the levy, so Sony makes a tidy profit on the media for recording whatever you want.

Then they turn around put on their Lawyer's suit and complain about counterfeiting, downloading, copying etc...it is beyond laughable to me when I look at them as an example of the media companies of today.

I still think i-tunes is the worst thing to ever happen to music in my lifetime, but taken in combination with everything else that has changed over the last 10+ years one thing is beyond dispute, the media companies are greedy self centered and deserve to go extinct as far as the music business is concerned.
 

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I think it is unfair for the industry to assume that if a person downloads, they will be circulating that download and profiting from it.


#1. If you downloaded the file, you were not the person circulating the file you were taking what was found in the public domain.

#2. If the website that is offering the download is viewable and the files are open for anyone to download, then it is by all means legal and should be considered public domain.

#3. If you are like most downloaders, you are downloading for your own listening pleasure.


#4. It is very difficult to make a true counterfeit CD. Sure there are lossless files, but to package the product as an exact copy takes major talent. You would have to have some superb software (which is legal, btw) to make the covers and discs.



I am sorry, but my time is to precious to spend copying everything to make a quick buck. Not to mention how difficult it would be to market counterfeit goods to get that quick buck. If I am going to download it is for my own listening and to get a preview before I buy (since I dont listen to much radio anymore).


Speaking of radio, it frustrates me that they dont tell the song names or artist anymore on the radio. I can listen for an hour to new music not knowing who the hell is playing or what the song is called. Very frustrating!
 

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^^I used my legal subscription for about a year, and only had one virus in all that time. But as I said earlier the record/movie companies hired teams of spammers to intentionally flood limewire, bearshare,frostwire with viruses and pornography then they would complain to their political friends and law enforcement about the crap on those services and hope they were shut down or at least gain such an unwholesome reputation no one would bother with them anymore.

It didn't work, it took all this time for a certified judge to issue a ruling, the legal system is slow to the point of being irrelevant when it comes to this kind of issue.
 

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