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Early daysThe original group was signed to HMV in 1959 under the auspices of Walter J. Ridley. Their first single was the raw "Please Don't Touch". This became a minor hit reaching number 25 on the UK singles charts in 1959. The song has since been covered many times, most successfully by the team of Motörhead and Girlschool known as Headgirl.
After this initial success the band was reorganised to streamline the sound and visual appeal. Kidd would naturally take centre-stage at the front, but with Clem Cattini (drums) directly behind. Flanking Kidd on either side would be Alan Caddy (guitar) and Brian Gregg (born 31 January 1939, in London) (bass); and Kidd would high-kick in time to the beat. In an attempt to re-create the feel of his recordings Kidd employed the use of an echo unit on his vocals, one of the first UK rock acts to attempt this on stage. When Johny Kidd & the Pirates appeared on Saturday Club between 1959 and 1961,they had two other members who shared the vocals. They were Mike West and Tom Brown.
Shakin' All OverKidd and the Pirates' finest moment might have been the powerful song "Shakin' All Over", which features memorable opening guitars and solo from Joe Moretti, (who also featured on the follow up "Restless"), and reached number one in the UK singles charts in 1960. The song and the group's proto-power trio line-up both made a strong impression on The Who, who would cover it in their 1970 album Live at Leeds, whose CD liner notes proclaim the original to be the UK's best pre-Beatles rock single. Music critics Roy Carr and Tony Tyler would later write that "Shakin' All Over" was the second-ever genuine British rock classic, following Cliff Richard's "Move It".
The distinctive 'Shakin' effect on the track, was created by Joe Moretti sliding Brian Gregg's cigarette lighter very fast up and down the guitar strings.
Despite some interesting cuts the hits tailed away in the shadow of "Shakin'". The swansong recording of this line-up in 1961, the b-side of "Please Don't Let Me Down" turned out to be a minor UK rock 'n' roll classic. The follow-up "So What" featured a racy piano solo from Thunderclap Jones. Some of The Pirates, namely (Clem Cattini, Alan Caddy and later Brian Gregg) decided to jump ship, and went on to join Joe Meek's The Tornados. Kidd cut a "solo" single backed by a bigger band sound. "Hurry On Back To Love" was more bluesy than anything Kidd had previously attempted and indicated a possible new path for him.
A new Pirate trio was recruited, Johnny Spence (bass) (born John Spencer Holliday, 26 January 1942, in Birmingham, Warwickshire), Frank Farley (drums) (born Frank William Farley, 18 February 1942, in Belgaum, India) and Johnny Patto (guitar), whom had recently backed Cuddly Dudley as "The Redcaps". Patto soon left and was replaced by Mick Green (guitar), who had also backed Dudley. The new line-up's first single with Kidd, "A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues" (coupled with "I Can Tell") was way ahead of the game, but only managed to enter the lower reaches of the charts toward the end of 1962.
Over time, a very visual show had developed. The group would deck out in 19th century Pirate costume in front of a huge backcloth of a pirate galleon, Kidd toying with a cutlass to great effect. Many a wooden stage received scarring from this prop until insurance cover could not be obtained for it. The group's German tours tightened their sound, as it did with many Liverpool combos who also made the trip. A projected single in keeping with the new sound, "Some Other Guy" was left unreleased in early 1963, allowing The Big Three to score their first chart entry.
The explosive rise of the 'beat groups' outshone the slow-burning R&B scene, and Kidd opted for the safety of Merseybeat with "I'll Never Get Over You", which reached number 4 on the charts in the summer of 1963. The recording session for the follow-up, "Hungry For Love", which also broke into the top twenty saw the Pirates record their own single. Both sides "My Babe", and "I Can Tell", were powerhouse R&B that put many of the Liverpool bands in the shade, with both tracks being recorded in one take. Green left to join Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas in 1964, and was replaced by John Weider. They also added organist Vic Cooper (born Victor Cooper, 13 December 1942, in Oxford, Oxfordshire).
The later daysThe hits again tailed away and the long-awaited debut album, featuring the expanded line-up with Vic Cooper on organ/piano duties, was never mastered for release. One step behind The Beatles and losing ground, Kidd abandoned dual-tracking his voice and switched back to R&B, with mixed results. Green left to join Billy J. Kramer with The Dakotas to form a twin lead guitar line-up, alongside Mike Maxfield. Eventually the group and singer parted company. The Pirates recorded one single, "Shades Of Blue" for Polydor before calling it a day.
Kidd kept recording. His single "It's Got To Be You", and an unreleased version of Otis Redding's "Can't Turn You Loose", showed that a mix of R&B and soul may have been where Kidd's future lay.
When Kidd was on the verge of a comeback with a promising 'New Pirates' group - Mick Stewart (Guitar), Nick Simper (bass), Ray Soaper (organ) and Roger Truth (Drums), on returning from a cancelled gig, he was sadly killed in a motor car accident in Bury, Lancashire on 7 October 1966, with companion, Nick Simper being injured.
The single "Send For That Girl" was released posthumously in November but failed to chart. This line-up of The Pirates (with John Kerrison replacing Truth) carried on in tribute until mid 1967, although there were no further recordings.
Post KiddThe best-known line-up of The Pirates, Mick Green, Johnny Spence and Frank Farley, reformed in 1976, surprising everyone with their powerful brand of R&B. They played at 'Front Row Festival', a three-week event at the Hope and Anchor, Islington in late November and early December 1977. This resulted in the band's inclusion, alongside the likes of Wilko Johnson, The Only Ones, the Saints, The Stranglers, X-Ray Spex, and XTC, on a hit double album of recordings from the festival. The Hope & Anchor Front Row Festival compilation LP (March 1978) reached number 28 in the UK Albums Chart.[1]
Although officially quitting in the mid 1980s, the band still performed occasionally until 2010, although due to ill-health Frank Farley was sometimes deputised for and was replaced by Mike Roberts (former drummer for indie band Minifish). They recorded a number of reunion albums since 1978's well-received Out of Our Skulls and still performed "Shakin' All Over" in their set. The band dissolved on the death of Mick Green in January 2010.
Another set of Pirates - with Joe Moretti (guitar), and re-uniting original Pirates, Brian Gregg (bass) and Clem Cattini (drums) have also played occasional gigs in recent years. A little-known fact is that Joe Moretti actually played on "Shakin' All Over" and it's follow-up "Restless", and went on to play on countless hit records as a session musician, including "It's Not Unusual", "Don't Sleep in the Subway" etc. However in this Pirates line-up it is Joe Moretti's son - also called Joe Moretti - on guitar.
LegacyThe b-side to Johnny Kidd & The Pirates' 1964 single "Always and Ever" was a cover of "Dr Feel-Good", by the American blues pianist and singer Willie Perryman (also known as "Piano Red") who recorded the song as "Dr Feelgood & The Interns". The name of the song is slang for heroin. The band Dr. Feelgood took their name from the Johnny Kidd & The Pirates recording.
Singles"Please Don't Touch"/"Growl" (May 1959)
"If You Were the Only Girl in the World"/"Feelin'" (1959)
"You Got What It Takes"/"Longin' Lips" (1960)
"Shakin' All Over"/"Yes Sir, That's My Baby" (June 1960)
"Restless"/"Magic of Love" (September 1960)
"Linda Lu"/"Let's Talk About Us" (March 1961)
"Please Don't Bring Me Down"/"So What" (September 1961)
"Hurry On Back To Love"/"I Want That" (January 1962)
"A Shot of Rhythm and Blues" b/w "I Can Tell" (November 1962)
"I'll Never Get Over You"/"Then I Got Everything" (June 1963)
"Hungry For Love"/"Ecstasy" (November 1963)
"Always and Ever"/"Dr. Feelgood" (April 1964)
"Jealous Girl"/"Shop Around" (June 1964)
"Whole Lotta Woman"/"Your Cheatin' Heart" (October 1964)
"The Birds and the Bees"/"Don't Make the Same Mistake I Did" (February 1965)
"Shakin' All Over '65"/"I Gotta Travel On" (May 1965)
"It's Gotta Be You"/"I Hate To Get Up In The Morning" (April 1966)
"The Fool"/"Send For That Girl" (posthumously) (November 1966)
The Pirates - Official band site
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!!!!!!!!!!!!Wiki Link
Early daysThe original group was signed to HMV in 1959 under the auspices of Walter J. Ridley. Their first single was the raw "Please Don't Touch". This became a minor hit reaching number 25 on the UK singles charts in 1959. The song has since been covered many times, most successfully by the team of Motörhead and Girlschool known as Headgirl.
After this initial success the band was reorganised to streamline the sound and visual appeal. Kidd would naturally take centre-stage at the front, but with Clem Cattini (drums) directly behind. Flanking Kidd on either side would be Alan Caddy (guitar) and Brian Gregg (born 31 January 1939, in London) (bass); and Kidd would high-kick in time to the beat. In an attempt to re-create the feel of his recordings Kidd employed the use of an echo unit on his vocals, one of the first UK rock acts to attempt this on stage. When Johny Kidd & the Pirates appeared on Saturday Club between 1959 and 1961,they had two other members who shared the vocals. They were Mike West and Tom Brown.
Shakin' All OverKidd and the Pirates' finest moment might have been the powerful song "Shakin' All Over", which features memorable opening guitars and solo from Joe Moretti, (who also featured on the follow up "Restless"), and reached number one in the UK singles charts in 1960. The song and the group's proto-power trio line-up both made a strong impression on The Who, who would cover it in their 1970 album Live at Leeds, whose CD liner notes proclaim the original to be the UK's best pre-Beatles rock single. Music critics Roy Carr and Tony Tyler would later write that "Shakin' All Over" was the second-ever genuine British rock classic, following Cliff Richard's "Move It".
The distinctive 'Shakin' effect on the track, was created by Joe Moretti sliding Brian Gregg's cigarette lighter very fast up and down the guitar strings.
Despite some interesting cuts the hits tailed away in the shadow of "Shakin'". The swansong recording of this line-up in 1961, the b-side of "Please Don't Let Me Down" turned out to be a minor UK rock 'n' roll classic. The follow-up "So What" featured a racy piano solo from Thunderclap Jones. Some of The Pirates, namely (Clem Cattini, Alan Caddy and later Brian Gregg) decided to jump ship, and went on to join Joe Meek's The Tornados. Kidd cut a "solo" single backed by a bigger band sound. "Hurry On Back To Love" was more bluesy than anything Kidd had previously attempted and indicated a possible new path for him.
A new Pirate trio was recruited, Johnny Spence (bass) (born John Spencer Holliday, 26 January 1942, in Birmingham, Warwickshire), Frank Farley (drums) (born Frank William Farley, 18 February 1942, in Belgaum, India) and Johnny Patto (guitar), whom had recently backed Cuddly Dudley as "The Redcaps". Patto soon left and was replaced by Mick Green (guitar), who had also backed Dudley. The new line-up's first single with Kidd, "A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues" (coupled with "I Can Tell") was way ahead of the game, but only managed to enter the lower reaches of the charts toward the end of 1962.
Over time, a very visual show had developed. The group would deck out in 19th century Pirate costume in front of a huge backcloth of a pirate galleon, Kidd toying with a cutlass to great effect. Many a wooden stage received scarring from this prop until insurance cover could not be obtained for it. The group's German tours tightened their sound, as it did with many Liverpool combos who also made the trip. A projected single in keeping with the new sound, "Some Other Guy" was left unreleased in early 1963, allowing The Big Three to score their first chart entry.
The explosive rise of the 'beat groups' outshone the slow-burning R&B scene, and Kidd opted for the safety of Merseybeat with "I'll Never Get Over You", which reached number 4 on the charts in the summer of 1963. The recording session for the follow-up, "Hungry For Love", which also broke into the top twenty saw the Pirates record their own single. Both sides "My Babe", and "I Can Tell", were powerhouse R&B that put many of the Liverpool bands in the shade, with both tracks being recorded in one take. Green left to join Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas in 1964, and was replaced by John Weider. They also added organist Vic Cooper (born Victor Cooper, 13 December 1942, in Oxford, Oxfordshire).
The later daysThe hits again tailed away and the long-awaited debut album, featuring the expanded line-up with Vic Cooper on organ/piano duties, was never mastered for release. One step behind The Beatles and losing ground, Kidd abandoned dual-tracking his voice and switched back to R&B, with mixed results. Green left to join Billy J. Kramer with The Dakotas to form a twin lead guitar line-up, alongside Mike Maxfield. Eventually the group and singer parted company. The Pirates recorded one single, "Shades Of Blue" for Polydor before calling it a day.
Kidd kept recording. His single "It's Got To Be You", and an unreleased version of Otis Redding's "Can't Turn You Loose", showed that a mix of R&B and soul may have been where Kidd's future lay.
When Kidd was on the verge of a comeback with a promising 'New Pirates' group - Mick Stewart (Guitar), Nick Simper (bass), Ray Soaper (organ) and Roger Truth (Drums), on returning from a cancelled gig, he was sadly killed in a motor car accident in Bury, Lancashire on 7 October 1966, with companion, Nick Simper being injured.
The single "Send For That Girl" was released posthumously in November but failed to chart. This line-up of The Pirates (with John Kerrison replacing Truth) carried on in tribute until mid 1967, although there were no further recordings.
Post KiddThe best-known line-up of The Pirates, Mick Green, Johnny Spence and Frank Farley, reformed in 1976, surprising everyone with their powerful brand of R&B. They played at 'Front Row Festival', a three-week event at the Hope and Anchor, Islington in late November and early December 1977. This resulted in the band's inclusion, alongside the likes of Wilko Johnson, The Only Ones, the Saints, The Stranglers, X-Ray Spex, and XTC, on a hit double album of recordings from the festival. The Hope & Anchor Front Row Festival compilation LP (March 1978) reached number 28 in the UK Albums Chart.[1]
Although officially quitting in the mid 1980s, the band still performed occasionally until 2010, although due to ill-health Frank Farley was sometimes deputised for and was replaced by Mike Roberts (former drummer for indie band Minifish). They recorded a number of reunion albums since 1978's well-received Out of Our Skulls and still performed "Shakin' All Over" in their set. The band dissolved on the death of Mick Green in January 2010.
Another set of Pirates - with Joe Moretti (guitar), and re-uniting original Pirates, Brian Gregg (bass) and Clem Cattini (drums) have also played occasional gigs in recent years. A little-known fact is that Joe Moretti actually played on "Shakin' All Over" and it's follow-up "Restless", and went on to play on countless hit records as a session musician, including "It's Not Unusual", "Don't Sleep in the Subway" etc. However in this Pirates line-up it is Joe Moretti's son - also called Joe Moretti - on guitar.
LegacyThe b-side to Johnny Kidd & The Pirates' 1964 single "Always and Ever" was a cover of "Dr Feel-Good", by the American blues pianist and singer Willie Perryman (also known as "Piano Red") who recorded the song as "Dr Feelgood & The Interns". The name of the song is slang for heroin. The band Dr. Feelgood took their name from the Johnny Kidd & The Pirates recording.
Singles"Please Don't Touch"/"Growl" (May 1959)
"If You Were the Only Girl in the World"/"Feelin'" (1959)
"You Got What It Takes"/"Longin' Lips" (1960)
"Shakin' All Over"/"Yes Sir, That's My Baby" (June 1960)
"Restless"/"Magic of Love" (September 1960)
"Linda Lu"/"Let's Talk About Us" (March 1961)
"Please Don't Bring Me Down"/"So What" (September 1961)
"Hurry On Back To Love"/"I Want That" (January 1962)
"A Shot of Rhythm and Blues" b/w "I Can Tell" (November 1962)
"I'll Never Get Over You"/"Then I Got Everything" (June 1963)
"Hungry For Love"/"Ecstasy" (November 1963)
"Always and Ever"/"Dr. Feelgood" (April 1964)
"Jealous Girl"/"Shop Around" (June 1964)
"Whole Lotta Woman"/"Your Cheatin' Heart" (October 1964)
"The Birds and the Bees"/"Don't Make the Same Mistake I Did" (February 1965)
"Shakin' All Over '65"/"I Gotta Travel On" (May 1965)
"It's Gotta Be You"/"I Hate To Get Up In The Morning" (April 1966)
"The Fool"/"Send For That Girl" (posthumously) (November 1966)
The Pirates - Official band site
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