Am I Alone In Hating The Beatles..?

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I'd really like to know what music Ksue and others do like who don't like The Beatles.
 

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It is not true at all that The Beatles early music was mostly just ''pop'' music,



The Beatles even in their early days were writing and playing on records as well in concerts,both love ballads,and great rocking rock n roll and pop rock songs that they both wrote and cover songs including their great rocking performances in Sweden where the audience was quiet during their performances. Here is their great rocking performance of Paul's I Saw Her Standing There in Sweden in 1963






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I Saw Her Standing There (Live) - The Beatles
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Live on Drop-In TV Show, Stockholm, Sweden. October 30, 1963.



They were the greatest *rock* band ever. And I have always loved this great blues rocker by Paul,She's A Woman they performed in .



Except live there isn't the piano,blending with the great rocking guitars,Paul's great prominent booming bass,and his great rock vocal! And once again it's amazing how good they sound on such limited,primitive sound systems of the time and with no feedback monitors so they couldn't even hear themselves singing and playing,yet they still played and sang great and in sync with each other.




The Beatles HD - She is A Woman (Remastered)


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The Beatles HD - She is A Woman (Remastered)


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The Beatles HD - She is A Woman (Remastered)




Here is their great April 1965 New Music Express Winner's Poll concert from April 11,1965.They won three years in a row.And notice that there are men and women of ages in the audience.




The Beatles at the NME Poll-Winners' All-Star Concert, 11 April 1965


The Beatles - Live Empire Pool - 1965 + Presentation


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00:00 Speech 01:23 THE BEATLES !! 02:39 I Feel Fine 05:17 She's a Woman 08:26 Baby's in Black 11:04 Ticket To Ride 14:47 Long Tall Sally 17:34 Presentation


The Beatles topped the bill at the 1964-65 New Musical Express Annual Poll-Winners' All-Star Concert. It was the third consecutive year they appeared at the ...




Here they performed Paul's great rocking I Saw Her Standing There in Sweden in October 1963 which The Beatles recorded in February 1963 on their first album Please Please Me which was recorded in just one day.









The Beatles performing their rocking cover of Long Tall Sally with Paul's great rocking vocal 1964.





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The Beatles - Long Tall Sally - Live
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I created this video with the YouTube Video Editor (http://www.youtube.com/editor) Paul McCartney Lead Vocals/Bass John Lennon Rhythm Guitar George Harrison ...



Here in 1964 June in Melbourne Australia they are playing John's great rock song You Can't Do That and John played lead guitar on, that they had recorded in February 1964 on their first great early album A Hard Day's Night




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Dpt7TI9q0



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The Beatles - You cant do that live ( HQ )


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And here they performed Paul's very good hard rocking,especially for early 1965,I'm Down at The Ed Sulivian Theater August 14,1965 one night before their live Shea Stadium performance.



https://vimeo.com/133531241



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The Beatles - I'm Down


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I'm Down Ed Sullivan Theater CBS Studio 50 August 14, 1965




Here is their even harder rocking performance at Shea Stadium on August 15,1965 than they did on their record version of Paul's I'm Down. And they did what a great rock n roll band would do,they ended this rock n roll concert with this rocking song.



https://vimeo.com/146526352


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The Beatles - I'm Down Live At Shea Stadium - Aug 15th, 1965
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This is "The Beatles - I'm Down Live At Shea Stadium - Aug 15th, 1965" by Isaac on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.





Here they performed a rocking cover of Dizzy Miss Lizzy with John's great rock vocal,at the same She Stadium concert.


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The Beatles - Dizzy Miss Lizzy Live At Shea Stadium - Aug 15th, 1965
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Here is another great rocking Beatles performance of the cover Twist and Shout in June 1964 in Melbourne Australia

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The Beatles Twist And Shout Live HD


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The Beatles Twist And Shout Live HD 720p HD «Twist and Shout» es una canción compuesta por Phil Medley y Bert Russell. Fue titulada originalmente como «Shake...
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Beatles -- Live -- Washington DC Concert [ film highlights! -- improved audio ]


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There's a new Beatles movie disc, reduced on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Eight-Days-Week-Touring-Blu-Ray/dp/B01M13O81J/theofficiapet-20 Also, I have a book on the ...


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Beatles -- Live -- Australia Concert [ film w/ great audio! ]
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The latest Beatles movie disc is reduced on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Eight-Days-Week-Touring-Blu-Ray/dp/B01M13O81J/theofficiapet-20 Also, I have a book...
 

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And I'm really not intending to spam on here,but I have a lot of great strong information about The Beatles that debunks a lot of ignorant myths especially about their early music.




The early Beatles lyrics were more simple but a lot of their early music was actually much more complex.Just one of many examples I always loved this very early John song written and recorded in 1962 Ask Me Why.






I have always loved this great beautiful song written by John,with such typical beautiful melodies and harmonies John and Paul usually wrote,and John's usual beautiful singing voice.And this was amazingly recorded in 1962 on only two track tape! with such limited,primitive recording technology but it of course still sounds great.Except I hate mono it's limited sounding and only makes their already limited recording technology sound even more limited.I tried to find the stereo version of this song on youtube but I couldn't find it.




Here university of Pennsylvania musicologist Alan W.Pollack who did an 11 year extensive analysis of every one of the 200 Beatles songs,analyzes Ask Me Why and explains that it's structurally complex.



http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/amw.shtml



Here is Alan's whole Beatles song analysis series


http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml
 

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From Me To You,and especially She Loves You and I Want To Hold Your Hand were praised by some music critics even from the beginning,like William Mann of The London Times in December 1963 pointed out their interesting unusual chords and arrangements and London Times music critic Richard Buckle also in late 1963 called John and Paul the greatest composers since Beethoven after they wrote the music for a play Mods and Rockers.



Bob Dylan ,Roger McGuinn of The Byrds as early as 1963 and 1964 pointed out that even in early Beatles songs like She Loves You and I Want To Hold Your Hand had unusual and interesting chords and they arranged them.Roger also has said that The Beatles unusually used folk rock chords in their rock n roll music and that they invented folk rock without even realizing it.



Here in this article about The Beatles chords,Bob Dylan is quoted saying what he thought in 1964 about The early Beatles music,he said that they were doing things nobody was doing and that their chords were outrageous,just outrageous and their harmonies made it all valid.



http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME03/Words_and_chords.shtml



Here in Rolling Stone Magazine's 100 Greatest Song Writers Bob Dylan is number 1,Paul McCartney is number 2, and John Lennon is number 3, Bob Dylan is quoted about a car trip when he heard a lot of Beatles songs on the radio, he said they were doing things and that he knew they were pointing the direction where music had to go.



http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters#john-lennon




Roger McGuinn has said that he started to play a 12 string guitar after he saw and heard George Harrison playing in in the A Hard Day's Night movie.Roger also said that The Beatles unusually wrote folk rock chords in their rock n roll music and he said that they invented folk rock without even realizing it.



And John and Paul wrote one of The Rolling Stones first hits the rock n roll song, I Wanna Be Your Man in late 1963 right in front of them. And Keith Richards and Mick Jagger were impressed and said wow,how can you write a song just like that and it inspired them to start writing their own songs.



John Lennon and Paul McCartney were such amazingly talented singer song writers that they were already writing hit songs for other artists as early as 1963 when their own song writing success was getting off the ground,besides The Rolling Stones,they also wrote hit songs in 1963 for Billy J.Kramer and The Dakatos,Celia Black,and Peter and Gordon etc.



Paul wrote his first song at age 14 and was playing guitar,John wrote heavy deep poetry but didn't start writing songs until he met Paul and was impressed that he wrote his own songs,and he too started to write his own songs at age 16,and they wrote together and never stopped from then on. Paul wrote the very pretty song I'll Follow The Sun at only 16.Even when The Beatles first came to America in February 1964 many people said how rare it was for *adult* rock n roll bands and solo artists to write their own songs,and Paul and John were already doing this as teenagers in the mid 1950's.



And even though I wasn't born yet in 1963 I know what type of music was popular on the radio,non rock n roll songs like Bobby Vinton,The Four Seasons,Bobby Darin and The Beach Boys surfing hits,The early Beatles songs like She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand and I Saw Her Standing there etc were hard rock for 1963 and ahead of their time.
 

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George Martin Says In This book his biography,All You Need is Ears,There's No Doubt Lennon & McCartney Were good Musicians,They Had Good Musical Brains & The Brain Is Where Music Originates,It Has Nothing To Do With Your Fingers,As It Happened They Could All Play Their Own Instruments Very Well,And that Paul is an excellent music all- arounder, probably the best bass guitar-player there is, a brilliant guitarist,a first class drummer and a competent piano player.




George Martin said in The Beatles early days he tried to learn to play the guitar in order to have a better musical communication between him and The Beatles,but he couldn't learn it and gave it up,but he says that John and Paul learned to play the piano far more quickly than he was able to master their instrument.




https://books.google.com/books?id=4...non and Mccartney were good musicians&f=false
 

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Here is a really good July 1976 Rolling Stone Magazine interview with GeorgeMartin in which he's asked about George Harrison who he says is talented and that he wanted to be like John and Paul but John and Paul are so enormously talented that it was silly to look elsewhere.



But it's obvious George Harrison was even more talented as a song writer and guitarist than most people realize because in this same interview George Martin says that he didn't give George much encouragement he just tolerated him. And of course John and Paul didn't give him much encouragement,so he did mostly everything on his own.






http://www.rollingstone.com/music/f...the-boys-in-the-band-19760715?page=2#comments
 

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As The All Music Guide says in their excellent Beatles biography "That it's difficult to summarize their career without restating cliches that have already been digested by tens of millions of rock fans, to start with the obvious,they were the greatest and most influential act of the rock era and introduced more innovations into popular music than any other rock band of the 20th century.""Moreover they were among the few artists of *any* discipline that were simultaneously the best at what they did *and* the most popular at what they did." They also say as singers John Lennon and Paul McCartney were among the best and most expressive in rock.





http://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-beatles-mn0000754032/biography



Also on an excellent site,The Evolution of Rock Bass Playing McCartney Style by bass player Dennis Alstrand,Stanley Clarke,Sting,Will Lee,Billy Sheehan,George Martin and John Lennon are quoted saying what a great,melodic and influential bass player Paul has always been.



http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/faqs/01uig9f.html
http://www.alstrand.com/evolution/evolution.html




And Wilco's John Stirratt was asked in Bass Player which bass players have had the most impact on his playing and the first thing he said was, Paul McCartney is one of the greatest bass players of all time,if you listen to what he was tracking live in the studio it's unbelievable." "With his tone and musicality he was a huge influence,he covered all of his harmonic responsibilities really well but his baselines were absolutely melodic and inventive."


http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/a...y-city-wingman-john-stirratt-lays-roots-wilco



In this 2010 interview the blogger says that John Stirratt has an affinity for good melodies so it's not surprising that Paul McCartney is one of his musical icons and then he quotes him saying that he's always absolutely in awe of his playing,including Paul's Beatles years.


http://audreeanne.blogspot.com/2010/02/interview-wilcos-john-stirratt-talk.html


And in an online 1977 Eric Clapton interview,Eric Clapton In His Own Words he says that there was always this game between John and George,and he said partly because John was a pretty good guitar player himself.



http://www.superseventies.com/ssericclapton.html


He played live with John as a member of John's 1969 Plastic Ono Band.



And there is a great online article by musician and song writer Peter Cross,The Beatles Are The Most Creative Band Of All Time and he says that many musicians besides him recognize Paul as one of the best bass guitar players ever.He too says that John and Paul are the greatest song composers and that to say that John and Paul are among 2 of the greatest singers in rock and roll is to state the obvious,and that John,Paul and George were all excellent guitarists and that George is underrated by people not educated about music but that Eric Clapton knew better,he also says that both John and Paul played great leads as well as innovative rhythm tracks. John Lennon co-wrote,sang and played guitar on one of David Bowie's first hits Fame in 1975 and David invited John to play guitar on his version of John's beautiful Beatles song Across The Universe.Brain May,Ozzy Osbourne,and Liam Gallagher and many more call The Beatles The Greatest Band Ever.'



http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Beatles-are-the-Most-Creative-Band-of-All-Time&id=222245



Also on Music Radar Tom Petty,Joe Perry and Richie Sambora in What The Beatles Mean To Me all say how cool and great they thought The Beatles were when they first saw them on The Ed Sullivan Show in February 1964 when they were just teen boys,Richie was only 5.Tom Petty said he thought they were really really great.And Alan White from the group Yes is also interviewed.


http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/tom-petty-what-the-beatles-mean-to-me-219800



http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/aerosmiths-joe-perry-what-the-beatles-mean-to-me-219308


http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/bon-jovis-richie-sambora-what-the-beatles-mean-to-me-219479



http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/alan-white-from-yes-what-the-beatles-mean-to-me-219747



Robin Zander of Cheap Trick said he's probably one of the biggest Beatles fans on the planet.Brad Whitford of Aerosmith said that a lot of that Beatles influencecomes from Steven Tyler's collaboration with Mark Hudson both whom are absolute Beatles freaks and he
 

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In this All Music Guide review of The Beatles 1963 second album,With The Beatles Stephen Thomas Erlewine who wrote The All Music Guide's Rolling stones biography,and reviews a lot of solo Beatles albums, says at the end of the very good review that still the heart of With The Beatles lies not in the covers but the originals where it was clear that even at this early stage The Beatles were rapidly maturing and changing turning into expert craftsman and musical innovators.


http://www.allmusic.com/album/with-the-beatles-mw0000192941
 

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By the way I can't stand the sound of Led Zeppelin and I'm defintely not alone in this,

Rate Your Music Users Who Think Led Zeppelin Are Painfully Overrated


http://rateyourmusic.com/list/finulanu/users_who_think_led_zeppelin_are_painfully_overrated/



This Band Is Everything That Is WRONG With Music, a Rate Your Music Site moderator,Benimal only says Led Zeppelin is the worst.


https://rateyourmusic.com/board_message?message_id=4217944&board_id=1&show=20&start=20







I have found a lot of people on music forums who hate or don't like Led Zeppelin even some on heavy metal forums. And even some people who for some puzzling reason like their music,say they can't stand Robert Plant's awful screeching,screaming and whaling vocals.



The Boston Globe has an online article from March 2009,called I Confess I Don’t Like… written by all of their music critics and Luke O’Neil wrote that when people talk of classic bands they don’t like they’re really speaking in coded language.He said for example “I don’t like The Beatles.” is the same as saying,”I’m a liar” he said but when I say I don’t like Led Zeppelin there’s no subtext. He then says a lot of it has to do with Robert Plant’s fiendish helium-powered caterwauling. He says he tends to prefer bands with vocalists not police sirens in tight pants.He also said the lyrics which run the gamut unimaginative doggerel to too-imaginative fantasy goofs don’t help.



He then says sure they inspired a lot of great bands,but should we not then hold them accountable for the thousands of downright awful imitators they’ve inspired? Remember that whole hair metal thing in the 80’s? He says who do you think put the bustle in those dudes hedgerow? And grunge? He says that was basically goateed Led Zeppelin on Smack.

http://www.boston.com/ae/music/gallery/we_should?pg=10



Rock music critic John Mendelson never liked Led Zeppelin either.



Van Halen in the late 70's early-mid 80's with David Lee Roth sounded a million times better! So do the Who,The Rolling Stones,The Eagles,etc and The Beatles are a zillion times better.




In this Music discussion Most Underrated/Overrated Artists on the site Music Banter this guy Urban HatCmonger who even likes hard rock and heavy metal music said the first most overrated is Led Zeppelin and said in parenthesis, bombastic c*ck rock and nothing else.


He's so right, even the picture of the ******* like zeppelin air craft on their first cover shows this,and a guy on Rate Your Music who gave their first album only two stars also said,look at the horrible phallus cover.



http://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/24422-most-underrated-overrated-artists-8.html
 

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