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:hm: that's out there

and I'm not "Engrish" major but I think there were some words in that article that were completely mis-used

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I think it was pretty relevant myself. But to be honest I believe p2p is the only thing keeping real music alive .. If it weren't for the Internet there would be very little music of interest
ever seeing the light of day in this pop orientated world today.
 

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What was wrong with it?

Everything. That article is all over the place.

He talks about punk rock, Joan Jett and tape trading, without ever really tying any of them into his topic. I read the article and can't figure out if he thinks those things were positives or negatives.

He contends that home taping came about in the 80's, when clearly it predated that. I was taping stuff off the radio as a 12 year-old kid in 1976. Had I been older, I almost assuredly would have started even earlier.

He then jumps to the Riot Girl stuff, even though home taping was old news by the time that genre appeared, no earlier than the late 1980's. He also never expalins what it has to do with his topic.

Then, he essentially blames the marketability of alternative rock for rock and roll's downfall. I guess he was happy with Billy Joel and Bon Jovi.

The whole splintering of rock and roll into different factions has been going on since at least the late 1960's, when FM radio started playing album cuts instead of just the hits. His whole premise is silly.
 

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I think it was pretty relevant myself. But to be honest I believe p2p is the only thing keeping real music alive .. If it weren't for the Internet there would be very little music of interest
ever seeing the light of day in this pop orientated world today.

I think the world has become pop orientated cause no one buys CDs anymore and companies wont invest in new bands cause there's no 'guarantee they'll sell.
 

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Yeah, I have to agree. Rock and metal are not represented other then classic rock it is only
The old tried and true that has already sold gold at the very least. Pop and rap are the only things promoted at all these days other then on the web. What I have noticed at best buy etc is all the metal they carry usually sells quickly but they dont bother restock anything other then the huge selling metal releases. So even if a release seems be selling well locally as soon as they are gone that is generally it. It isn't given the chance to do any better.
 

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I think the world has become pop orientated cause no one buys CDs anymore and companies wont invest in new bands cause there's no 'guarantee they'll sell.

That's very true, but the flip side of that is that unsigned musicians today have more power than unsigned musicians in any era since the dawn of music. Unsigned bands can download the same recording technology that the triple-platinum producers use and they can put together legitimately professional material in their bedroom. Then they can put it up on Soundcloud and Spotify and reach virtually the entire world. Nothing gets the attention of a major label like success. Plus having a music company backing you is becoming less essential over time.

So for midlevel bands it's much, much harder to make money. But for the really good bands, bands that offer something which especially resonates with people, they may even be in a better situation than before.
 

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Although I have heard some good recordings band have made in their bedrooms or garages, nothing beats the sound that comes from a studio set up just for recording. Check out Dave Grohl's documentary Sound City. Fantastic insight into a recording studio and the attitudes from some famous musicians.

While I understand the logic behind the new way other doing things, it does make life a lot harder for a musician. Not only do they have to know music, they need to know recording, marketing, business, social networking. Having a studio behind you to do these things freed the artist up to do what they do best. Having said that, I know a lot of musicians got screwed for a lack of any business scene - Black Sabbath being a good example.

I've interviewed a few musicians for the website I write for www,fullthrottlerock.net and many say the similar thing (both new and old artist) downloading music is hurting them.

But, if you are good at doing everything yourself you can indeed develop a decent career for yourself. Check the review I posted on this site. This guy did EVERYTHING himself. -- http://www.classicrockforums.com/fo...e-through-shadow-into-light-27486/#post692314
 

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