"KISS is just as important as Aerosmith,Led Zeppelin"-Scott Ian

Kiss, with Ace and Peter, had great songs, great riffs, and the vocals (including the harmonies) by Paul, Gene, and Peter were great as well. Fvkc whoever thinks otherwise. If I were inducted into the hall of shame, I'd smash the award on the stage and tell everyone involved with the hall to fvkc their grandmothers. I'd be ashamed to be inducted.

Well, to each his own but anyone who loves a band like Aerosmith, AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Sweet, etc etc etc and dismisses early Kiss as a 'novelty' band I can't begin to understand. You might not like the theatrics but I don't listen with my eyes. If I did, I'd probably only like popamole porn singers.

Khor1255 said:

Well, to each his own but anyone who loves a band like Aerosmith, AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Sweet, etc etc etc and dismisses early Kiss as a 'novelty' band I can't begin to understand. You might not like the theatrics but I don't listen with my eyes. If I did, I'd probably only like popamole porn singers.

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I agree. How can someone love rock from the 70's but not like Kiss? Usually the hurdle most people can't get over is either the immense hype or the commercialism or maybe the cheesy lyrics. Well, welcome to the 70's, Kiss werent the only band with those three things in common.

Bottom line: Kiss had some fantastic records in the mid 70's. Put on Hotter Than Hell or Destroyer on the turntable and put on the headphones and tell me those albums dont kick major a**.

stepcousin said:

I agree. How can someone love rock from the 70's but not like Kiss? Usually the hurdle most people can't get over is either the immense hype or the commercialism or maybe the cheesy lyrics. Well, welcome to the 70's, Kiss werent the only band with those three things in common.

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Yep. Musically and lyrically, KISS was just another one of many mid-70's hard rock bands- a little better than many , not quite as good as some others - but basically all doing the same thing ( guitar-oriented, riff-based hard rock with lyrics written for teenage boys with probably not much of a future). I always have a hard time understanding how AC/DC - Ted Nugent - Alice Cooper, etc. get exalted as "bad ass", while KISS gets written off as cheesy hacks. I've made the argument more than once on this very forum that KISS always had MUCH more to offer musically than AC/DC has ever had.

I love Zeppelin...but a LOT (not all) of Zeppelin's music is a lot of Oooh Yeah Ooh Yeah...baby baby...uh..uh...lots of sex. The joy of rock and roll.

Not every KISS song was like this either. Some were are done cleverly that were though. I don't think there is a songwriter on this forum that would have thought of Almost Human or Calling Dr. Love.....they are unique ideas.

I think the make up was easy to lead to merchandising..I don't think the band actually thought this from the very beginning...but hey...rolled with it.

As far as any cheesy lyrics..meaning the kind that ANYBODY could come up with (there are a few and not many) were done on purpose. Let's Put the X in Sex and Rock Hard?? Paul Stanley today says he's embarrassed by them..and also states that he knew what he was doing in the moment.

I think there is alot of cool stuff goin' on again when I listen to Monster and all that. Lots of influence again...comin' from Zeppelin, Mountain,Spirit and Mowtown.

100,000,000 records sold. (or whatever the number is)

That's gotta count for something.

I'm a Kiss fan. I think they deserve to be in the hall.

Vehicle said:

100,000,000 records sold. (or whatever the number is)

That's gotta count for something.

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justin beiber, the backstreet boys, micheal bolton and the bay city rollers sold a lot of records too.

foreverblue said:

justin beiber, the backstreet boys, micheal bolton and the bay city rollers sold a lot of records too.

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I'd be willing to bet the four of them combined haven't sold as many records as KISS.

And if their combined years touring is over KISS' 40 years, it ain't by much.


That should count for something as well.

Vehicle said:

I'd be willing to bet the four of them combined haven't sold as many records as KISS.

And if their combined years touring is over KISS' 40 years, it ain't by much.


That should count for something as well.

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not really, abba have probaby sold more than kiss.

simmons has all but admitted that kiss are about money,they lost my respect after they ditched frehley and criss. i don't think i can name one song post original lineup. " heavens on fire" is about the only one.
more power to anyone who was a fan of the original lineup though, and can keep interested in. them after that. i can't think of another band who has lumped merchandise and novelty onto their fans to try squeeze out every last drop. maybe the beatles, and kiss are not the beatles.