Reincarnation

12-15-2009, 07:26 PM

Anyone else ever wonder about this? I tried to have this convo with my dad but he's really religious so you can't really talk to him about anything because he's all YOU WILL DIE AND THEN STAND BEFORE GOD AS HE CHOOSES WHETHER YOU GO TO HEAVEN OR HELL so I figured I could try it here.

One thing that came to mind was fears. I find it kinda strange how people are afraid of some things for unexplained reasons. I am not afraid of sharks but I immediately freeze and my anxiety starts up whenever I see a pic of a great white shark with an open mouth.....I don't know why, it just happened randomly a few years ago. I was never afraid of it before and watched all the Jaws movies but I was surfing the net one night and saw a picture of a shark coming out of the water with it's mouth open and I literally froze and almost cried, it was so ****ing weird. It got me wondering that, if I ever lived a past life, I could have been eaten by a shark or bitten by one (as lulzy as that sounds). It's just really strange how it came out of nowhere.....it may have triggered a past memory? I don't know.

There was a story here in the summer where an 11 year old kid had dreams of being a pilot and getting shot down in WW2. This kid knew the plane model and kept having this same dream that he was a pilot getting shot down. It was determined that this kid was the reincarnation of a real pilot who was shot down in a plane.

My grade 8 teacher went on a trip to England and she had never been there before but she knew the streets and exactly where to go.

Anyways, what do you think? Have you had any experiences that make you wonder about stuff like this?

I found the story about the kid and the pilot stuff:

http://www.flixxy.com/world-war-ii-f...ncarnation.htm

Slip'nn2Darkness · 12-15-2009, 07:36 PM

As far as Geat Whites go.. I surfed in Cal growing up and never gave them much thought.. Till that dam movie came out.. I read the book before I had seen the movie and it didn't cause the same feeling.. Then I couldn't help it when I was out in the breaks sitting there with my feet hanging under water on my board.. IT SUCKED to say the least.. I even certified as a scuba diver and only seen a few sharks from time to time.. But in all the years I lived and surfed in Cal.. I never heard of a shark attack..
Now I live in Florida.. Guess what?? Sharks eat people down here.. Lots of shark attacks in Florida because they have Bull and Tiger sharks who are aggressive. So Page.. if your ever in Florida.. Be careful in the water..

As for reincarnation.. I don't know.. I wish I knew more about Buddism since they believe in it and I like their philosophy's on life..
It seems to make sense that we could possible evolve over and over again to keep learning more important things on this Earth..
How many times we are people I'm not sure..But it is interesting...
I don't believe in Hell.. I believe we are here to learn how to love.. Love is the one emotion that allows all to fit a balance in life.. Without it.. We would never survive..

12-15-2009, 07:40 PM

The afterlife has always amazed me. I certainly don't want to find out anytime soon what happens but I always hope that, when you die, you're young again (so let's take a random number like 20 years of age, lol) and you get to hang out on earth and do whatever you want.

I've already planned to write on a chalkboard during a 3rd grade class.

**Cosmic Harmony** · 12-15-2009, 08:08 PM

Of all the theories on the after life I must say that reincarnation is by far my favorite followed by ghosts. I feel like if it's real then I had some involvement with dancing at some point. I mean, I'm not a good dancer by various forms of dance such a ballet and belly dancing have always mesmerized me and I have no idea why.

**Magic** · 05-22-2010, 07:39 PM

the best line on reincarnation I have ever heard came from Jack Nicholson...

"I don't get the whole reincarnation thing. You either move up or down the scale by how you lived your life. What would you have to do to move up the scale if you were a snail? Lay down a perfect trail of slime?"

I have to agree with him, who judges you, and who moves you up or down the scale?

**Cosmic Harmony** · 05-22-2010, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Magic

I have to agree with him, who judges you, and who moves you up or down the scale?

The universe or something.

**Magic** · 05-22-2010, 09:05 PM

But I question if I even believe in reincarnation. If there is reincarnation, though, I am convinced I will return as a cat.

**Cosmic Harmony** · 05-22-2010, 09:25 PM

Well I don't really believe in it myself but I just think it's the most appealing to me. Basically, the good guys come out on top, the bad guys loose, and karma is a bitch if someone is a bitch.

**Magic** · 05-22-2010, 09:31 PM

yeppers! if Karma determines your placement in reincarnation...

**Cosmic Harmony** · 05-22-2010, 09:41 PM

Well it's kind of the same principle as karma really. Potato, Pototo.

**Magic** · 05-22-2010, 10:08 PM

I recon, but it would be neat if reincarnation could be documented...like with a time capsule or something.

**Cosmic Harmony** · 05-22-2010, 10:18 PM

Yes it would. I would kind of like to see someone's time line. Sit there looking it over and being critical by going "You went from a rabbit down to a mantis there. How'd that happen? What'd you do?!"

TheFeldster · 05-23-2010, 03:26 AM

I don't really know with the incarnation thingy.

I'm not religious, and I don't really believe there is some higher power out there judging us, and if there is, I'm fairly confident humans haven't got it right yet, as far as the various Gods and what-not go.

BUT, that said, I've studied biology and psychology both for a few years now, and not one of them has explained to me where the idea of "life" comes from. Oh, they can say that certain chemicals allow us to do things with our life, and they can explain what codes our body with the DNA and stuff, and they can even create life in a test-tube now (as of about Friday), but I haven't seen anything that explains WHY these particular chemicals when put together can equal the sensation we call life.

Some people explain the sensations due to the electrical currents flowing through our nervous system. But there's electrical currents flowing through my toaster as well, and I'm fairly confident it doesn't feel anything.

Even with this test-tube born bacteria, it's hardly complex and there's no way we can prove that it actually thinks/experiences sensations/etc. I'm convinced there's something else out there responsible for that.

Now, I have gone on a tangent a bit there, but that "something else" is a very real possibility, IMO, to be linked to some form of after-life.

So, in a sense, I'm an atheist who believes in an after-life, which is a bit of a contradiction, but yeah, that's my thoughts.

AboutAGirl · 05-23-2010, 09:59 AM

"If I thought I'd have to live a whole other life after this, I'd kill myself right now." -- Bender (Futurama)

I'd love to think that the tranquility and peace of mind I've discovered in this life are the sum result of centuries spent in the trials of history. But if they are, why did it take me so many years to grasp something as simple as proper work ethic? How could a centuries' old soul with the wisdom of the ancients have succumbed to violent, suicidal teen angst for a decade? Strict reincarnation seems a highly hokey and unverifiable concept to me. If there is anything of the sort, surely it would be non-descript and it would work through the base fact of energies and bodies being passed on in a literal sense. What scientists call the conservation of mass states that matter can neither be created nor destroyed, so the idea of 'something' being retained as creatures pass through each other and 'become' each other in the annals of time has at least an iota of conceptual plausibility. I don't believe in it myself, but I'm as vaguely open to the idea as my self-subduing cynicism demands.

jackory · 05-23-2010, 11:49 AM

I believe in reincarnation, but I don't think we can know "what we were in 'past lives'". Just like we can't know what we'll be "in future lives". We are all fragments of one Universal Soul to which we will return when our time in this incarnation/paradigm is complete. The Universal Soul (as I will call it for now) is outside of time and space, and so can never be comprehended within it. We're not meant to comprehend it, because we are here to experience this reality we are in. As part of (or better yet, AS) Universal Soul we actually CHOOSE the incarnations with which we have experienced/experience/will experience. So I don't really believe in Karma, except on the physical level (what comes around, goes around), and I don't believe in divine judgment, just like I don't believe that God is a separate entity. I know it's sometimes difficult to imagine that a soul/Soul could ever/would ever want to choose to experience awful things, terrible situations, etc., but the whole point of creation, from the standpoint of the Creator, is to experience ALL OF IT. If it can be experienced then it MUST be experienced in order for the creation to be complete. We're not meant, in this incarnation, to understand *why* things are the way they are. We will when we return to Universal Soul, at which point we'll understand *why* we want to incarnate again. I think we will even write the script for the incarnation we're embarking upon and that we've done the same with the life we're living now. It's a remembering and forgetting process. Only it's like when we're born we forget who we really are and then when we die we remember. Then we choose to forget and go through the process again, ad infinitum.

IMO, of course, but this is part of what I believe.